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Xref: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu soc.culture.arabic:19963 soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna:3972 soc.culture.iranian:23655 soc.culture.jewish:65427 soc.culture.pakistan:40175 soc.culture.turkish:35458 soc.culture.yugoslavia:17965 talk.politics.mideast:77305Path: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!rochester!udel!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!yale.edu!not-for-mailFrom: jovanovic-nick@yale.edu (Nick Jovanovic)Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna,soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.yugoslavia,talk.politics.mideastSubject: Re: Europe vs. Muslim BosniansDate: 13 May 1993 17:34:13 -0400Organization: Yale University Science & Engineering UNIX(tm), New Haven, CT 06520-2158Lines: 32Distribution: worldMessage-ID: <1sueslINNa6g@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU>References: <C6z334.3Juz@austin.ibm.com> <C6z3JD.ApB@news2.cis.umn.edu> <1su2tf$f7r@venus.haverford.edu>NNTP-Posting-Host: minerva.cis.yale.eduIn article <1su2tf$f7r@venus.haverford.edu> Michael Sells <m_sells@haverford.edu> writes:>You've asked a crucial question that underlies much of the genocide. >Bosnian Muslims are slavic in ethnicity. They speak Serbo-Croatian. But>there is a Christo-Slavic ideology whereby all true slavs are Christian>and anyone who converted to Islam thereby must have changed ethnicity by>changing religion. "Muslim" in ex-Yugoslavia was a *nation* not a religion. In fact, notall Muslims in B-H are followers of Islam. Therefore, there do (did?)exist in ex-Yugoslavia "Christian Muslims." Tito defined the Muslim nation constitutionally, adding Muslims to Serbs, Croats, and Slovenes,the three founding nations which entered into a voluntary union at theend of WWI. In addition, Tito added two other nations constitutionally:Montenegrins, and Makedonijans. Nations had the right of secession, but republics did not. So, "Muslim"is much more a political term than a religious term (for those who differentiate between religion and politics, that is) in B-H. It was not a "Christo-Slavic" ideology that made a Muslim nation in Yugoslavia, itwas the "Atheist Communist" ideology of Tito. Before Tito, there wasno Muslim nation in Yugoslavia. The war is not a religious war, and it is not an ethnic war. It is acivil war in which the terms of secession are being negotiated with gunsinstead of pens. The Croat, Muslim, and Serb political leaders *all*chose to fight over the terms of secession instead of compromising andpeacefully negotiating multilateral secession agreements. -Nick
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