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Xref: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu talk.politics.mideast:76271 soc.culture.jewish:63662Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.jewishPath: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!crabapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!news.sei.cmu.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!boulder!qso.Colorado.EDU!perlmanFrom: perlman@qso.Colorado.EDU (Eric S. Perlman)Subject: Re: Who should be spied on...Message-ID: <1993Apr22.162756.9996@colorado.edu>Keywords: hypocritical pigSender: news@colorado.edu (The Daily Planet)Nntp-Posting-Host: qso.colorado.eduOrganization: University of Colorado, BoulderReferences: <C5s8D7.B0y.1@cs.cmu.edu> <C5sDCK.38n@news.cso.uiuc.edu> <C5vzDv.Mxw.1@cs.cmu.edu>Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1993 16:27:56 GMTLines: 49In article <C5vzDv.Mxw.1@cs.cmu.edu> anwar+@cs.cmu.edu (Anwar Mohammed) writes:>In article <C5sDCK.38n@news.cso.uiuc.edu> eshneken@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Edward A Shnekendorf) writes:>>anwar+@cs.cmu.edu (Anwar Mohammed) writes:>>>>>In article <4815@bimacs.BITNET> ehrlich@bimacs.BITNET (Gideon Ehrlich) writes:>>>>The readers of this forum seemed to be more interested in the contents>>>>of those files.>>>>So It will be nice if Yigal will tell us:>>>>1. Why do American authorities consider Yigal Arens to be dangerous?>>>>>ADL authorities seem to view a lot of people as dangerous, including>>>the millions of Americans of Arab ancestry. Perhaps you can answer>>>the question as to why the ADL maintained files and spied on ADC members>>>in California (and elsewhere??)? Friendly rivalry perhaps?>>>>Come on! Most if not all Arabs are sympathetic to the Palestinian war >>against Israel. That is why the ADL monitors Arab organizations. That is>>the same reason the US monitored communist organizations and Soviet nationals>>only a few years ago. >>>>The ADC is an organization of Arab-*AMERICANS*.>>Let me see...you're saying that "most if not all" Arab-AMERICANS should be>spied on? You're also saying that "most if not all" Arab-AMERICANS>should be views as a national security threat to Israel (and the US, >as you gratuitously imply in your reference to the WTC bombing, in >which no Arab-AMERICANS were involved)? By inference, can we assume >that you think that anyone of Arab lineage anywhere in the world poses >a threat to Israel and, therefore, should be spied on?Like it or not, Edward, Anwar has a very good, valid point. Obviously,in presenting it, he (quite legitimately and deliberately) takes a pointof view to an extreme which might not have been what you intended, butthat is one of the best ways to demonstrate a "slippery slope" type ofargument, which I believe was his aim.I very frankly believe that the ADL will be proved innocent in thiscase. I doubt there's enough evidence to weigh against them even in acivil court, where preponderance of the evidence, not evidence beyondany reasonable doubt, is the standard for "winning" such a case. That,however, does not prevent me from seeing the merit in Anwar's point. Rest deleted.-- "How sad to see/A model of decorum and tranquillity/become like any other sportA battleground for rival ideologies to slug it out with glee." -Tim Rice,"Chess" Eric S. Perlman <perlman@qso.colorado.edu> Center for Astrophysics and Space Astronomy, University of Colorado, Boulder
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