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Xref: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:60656 comp.os.linux:37518Path: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!crabapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!fs7.ece.cmu.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!ogicse!netnews.nwnet.net!serval!luke.eecs.wsu.edu!hluFrom: hlu@luke.eecs.wsu.edu (HJ Lu)Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.os.linuxSubject: Re: Debugging possible hardware problemsMessage-ID: <1993Apr20.151405.12480@serval.net.wsu.edu>Date: 20 Apr 93 15:14:05 GMTArticle-I.D.: serval.1993Apr20.151405.12480References: <1r0rslINNnv2@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (USENET News System)Organization: Washington State University!Lines: 54In article <1r0rslINNnv2@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> jfc@athena.mit.edu (John F Carr) writes:>>I'm running Linux on an 80486 EISA system, and I'm having what I think are>hardware problems.  It could be software, but I don't see why I'd be the>only one having trouble.  I'd like some advice on how best to debug this.>>The symptom: when I try to build gcc, I get unpredictable and unrepeatable>results.  Sometimes a .o file is not in valid a.out format.  Recompiling the>file gives me a valid binary.  Sometimes the compiler aborts or dumps core,>but works fine when run again with the same input.  Compiling the same>source files with the same arguments gives slight differences in a few>object files.  (Note that Linux, unlike many other systems, does not put>timestamps in object files so compiling twice should give bit-identical>results.)>>I also have occasional filesystem corruption on my SCSI drive, but that>could be caused by using development software.  It could also be related to>my problems compiling.  The compile problems are not caused by disk>problems: I get the same results whether I do my work on an IDE or SCSI>disk.>>I've set the memory speed and cache write speed to the recommended values.Recommended for what, DOS? That is a junk.>>I suspect the external cache, but I have no real evidence for this.>>The motherboard is a NICE Super-EISA with 256 KB write-back cache and a DX/2>66 Mhz processor.>>What I'm looking for:>>	. A system test program to run under DOS or Linux	Linux + gcc. Fire up gcc to compile libc and kernel at the	same time running X11R5.>>	. Suggestions about the cause of the problem	Bad memory, bad motherboard, bad cache.>>	. Suggestions about how to debug the problem>	change wait state of RAM.	turn off turbo.	change bus speed	swap RAM.H.J.

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