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Xref: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu comp.org.eff.talk:17261 alt.privacy.clipper:142 sci.crypt:16068Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk,alt.privacy.clipper,sci.cryptPath: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!crabapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!fs7.ece.cmu.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!ddsw1!eff!figFrom: fig@eff.org (Cliff Figallo)Subject: Re: Organized Lobbying for CryptographyMessage-ID: <1993Apr27.151925.11525@eff.org>Originator: fig@eff.orgSender: usenet@eff.org (NNTP News Poster)Nntp-Posting-Host: eff.orgOrganization: The Electronic Frontier FoundationReferences: <1r2gb5$h0r@transfer.stratus.com> <1r3jgbINN35i@eli.CS.YALE.EDU>Distribution: inetDate: Tue, 27 Apr 1993 15:19:25 GMTLines: 31jgfoot@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Josh A. Goldfoot) writes:>Tarl Neustaedter (tarl@coyoacan.sw.stratus.com) wrote:>: It means that the EFF's public stance is complicated with issues irrelevant>: to the encryption issue per se. There may well be people who care about>: the encryption issue who don't care to associate themselves with the>: network erotica issue (or may even disagree with the EFF's position).>Perhaps these encryption-only types would defend the digitized porn if it>was posted encrypted?>These issues are not as seperable as you maintain.Well, regardless of what policy liabilities anyone in Washington may thinkEFF has, it is going ahead aggressively attacking the assumptions that arebehind the Administrations Clipper Chip initiative. For all the reasonsstated here. In Washington, you have to work under the assumption that everyone has some liabilities. Government and non-governmental organizations alike all share the same glass house. EFF is variouslyidentified as the Hacker Defense Fund, the First Amendment Absolutists,the New Communists, etc, but it is also an acknowledged leader in thecivil liberties arena and is respected as a serious player in the policy circles. So unless there is another organization with thecredibility and clout and right policy stance that you know of inWashington, please don't count EFF out as a valid representative ofyour views in the Clipper Chip matter.-- <<*>><<*>><<*>><<*>><<*>><<*>> Cliff Figallo fig@eff.orgEFF Online Guy (617)576-4506
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