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Path: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!magnesium.club.cc.cmu.edu!news.sei.cmu.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!news.service.uci.edu!beckman.com!dsg4.dse.beckman.com!a_rubinNewsgroups: sci.cryptSubject: Re: Screw the people, crypto is for hard-core hackers & spooks onlyMessage-ID: <a_rubin.735432140@dsg4.dse.beckman.com>From: a_rubin@dsg4.dse.beckman.com (Arthur Rubin)Date: 21 Apr 93 22:42:20 GMTReferences: <19930419.155204.305@almaden.ibm.com>  <1r0ausINNi01@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <1993Apr20.145338.14804@shearson.com> <1r47l1INN8gq@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>Organization: Beckman Instruments, Inc.Nntp-Posting-Host: dsg4.dse.beckman.comLines: 24In <1r47l1INN8gq@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> jfc@athena.mit.edu (John F Carr) writes:>In most cases information you come by properly is yours to use as you wish,>but there are certainly exceptions.  If you write a paper which includes>sufficiently detailed information on how to build a nuclear weapon, it is>classified.  As I understand the law, nuclear weapons design is>_automatically_ classified even if you do the work yourself.  I believe you>are then not allowed to read your own paper.This has now been thrown out by the courts.  (The "Progressive" case.)>A less serious example: if you tell drivers about a speed trap they are>about to run into, you can be fined, even though you might argue that you>broke no law when you discovered the location of the policeman.  The charge>is interfering with a police officer, which is quite similar what you would>be doing by reverse engineering the Clipper chip.This is outright illegal.  It DOES violate the first amendment.  If youwould, give a case in which your "speed trap" example has been upheld bythe courts.--Arthur L. Rubin: a_rubin@dsg4.dse.beckman.com (work) Beckman Instruments/Brea216-5888@mcimail.com 70707.453@compuserve.com arthur@pnet01.cts.com (personal)My opinions are my own, and do not represent those of my employer.

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