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Xref: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu comp.org.eff.talk:16968 sci.crypt:15429Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk,sci.cryptPath: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!crabapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!fs7.ece.cmu.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!network.ucsd.edu!munnari.oz.au!uniwa!cujo!cc.curtin.edu.au!zrepacholFrom: zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au (Paul Repacholi)Subject: Re: Clipper Chip. LONG follow up.Message-ID: <1993Apr20.030538.1@cc.curtin.edu.au>Lines: 478Sender: news@cujo.curtin.edu.au (News Manager)Organization: Curtin University of TechnologyReferences: <16695@rand.org>Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 18:05:38 GMTIn article <16695@rand.org>, jim@rand.org (Jim Gillogly) writes:> This document is in the anonymous ftp directory at NIST.  Looks to me> like the other shoe has dropped.> > 	Jim Gillogly> 	Trewesday, 25 Astron S.R. 1993, 17:00> Thanks for posting this and making it available. This post will be LONG, I willcomment on most of it, and am reluctantly leaving all of the original in placeto provide context.Please note that an alt. group has been set up for the Clipper stuff.> -------------------> > Note:  This file will also be available via anonymous file> transfer from csrc.ncsl.nist.gov in directory /pub/nistnews and> via the NIST Computer Security BBS at 301-948-5717.>      ---------------------------------------------------> >                          THE WHITE HOUSE> >                   Office of the Press Secretary> > _________________________________________________________________> > For Immediate Release                           April 16, 1993> > >                 STATEMENT BY THE PRESS SECRETARY> > > The President today announced a new initiative that will bring> the Federal Government together with industry in a voluntary                                                     ^^^^^^^^^Hum, AT&T, VLSI and Mykotronx are 'industry'?Wonder what happened to IBM, this should be right up their street.And a mandateed scheme is voluntary? Mr Orwell would love this.> program to improve the security and privacy of telephone                                                 ^^^^^^^^^> communications while meeting the legitimate needs of law> enforcement.Telephone encryption and scrambleing are years behind digital ones like RSA,IDEA, or even DES. The above, while literaly true, is a clasic straw-man claimin the context of non-real-time circuits such as E-mail and the like.> The initiative will involve the creation of new products to> accelerate the development and use of advanced and secure> telecommunications networks and wireless communications links.> I would modestly propose that a mandated use of ISDN would do more for commun-ications than this lot.> For too long there has been little or no dialogue between our> private sector and the law enforcement community to resolve the> tension between economic vitality and the real challenges of> protecting Americans.  Rather than use technology to accommodate> the sometimes competing interests of economic growth, privacy and> law enforcement, previous policies have pitted government against> industry and the rights of privacy against law enforcement.> > Sophisticated encryption technology has been used for years to> protect electronic funds transfer.  It is now being used to> protect electronic mail and computer files.  While encryptionNormmaly DES.> technology can help Americans protect business secrets and the                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^> unauthorized release of personal information, it also can be used> by terrorists, drug dealers, and other criminals.Note the use of the word "business" in the above. The whole tenor of thisrelease seems to be establishing a ground rule that only "business" useis legitimate for debate. If you want the nothings you drop in your wife'sear to remain secret and private, that is not even on the agenda for debate.Note that there is NO role for you to contain private info in this. The onlyreference is to information already in the hands of others. The 'unauthorizedrelease' bit is also drawing a long bow. Most of these cases are by people whohave legitimate access abusing it, and revealing, or often selling the info.These people are, of course, in this proposal, the people who will have thekeys.The criminals also use lawers, courts, the CIA, white-house officials and pensto go about their business. When will they be outlawed as well? Yeah, severalof them would be a better idea than CLipper!Them again, the protections of law and the courts have been seriously errodedover the last decade ofr so.> A state-of-the-art microcircuit called the "Clipper Chip" has> been developed by government engineers.  The chip represents a                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^NSA> new approach to encryption technology.Yeah, this bit is VERY true.>....It can be used in new,> relatively inexpensive encryption devices that can be attached to> an ordinary telephone.  It scrambles telephone communications> using an encryption algorithm that is more powerful than many in> commercial use today.> Note the repeated mixing of telephone scrabeling and encryption. A demoof the above claim on an ordanary POTS would be a good nights entertainmentI suspect. Note also the 'many'. not 'all', as the general tone implies.> This new technology will help companies protect proprietary                                ^^^^^^^^^> information, protect the privacy of personal phone conversations                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^> and prevent unauthorized release of data transmitted> electronically.  At the same time this technology preserves the> ability of federal, state and local law enforcement agencies to> intercept lawfully the phone conversations of criminals. The case record seems to indicate that what is needed is a brutal tighteningof the current abuses. I have not heard, yet, of a case that was impeaded bythe use of secure encryption by the men in black. The other side, abuse by lawenforcers is well documented, even by govt agencies. And the phone vs other comsis blurred yet again.> A "key-escrow" system will be established to ensure that the> "Clipper Chip" is used to protect the privacy of law-abiding> Americans.> A "key-escrow" system will be established to ensure that the> "Clipper Chip" is used to protect the privacy of law-abiding> Americans.Lets run that line twice. Not **VERY** carefully what it says. The statedpurpose of the key eschrow is to make the use of Clipper compulsory. Note theword "ensure". As to 'protect', or 'law-abiding', I will leave to you.So to the person who asked if it included the outlawing of other encryptions,the answer in this press release is, YES.> ...Each device containing the chip will have two unique> "keys," numbers that will be needed by authorized government> agencies to decode messages encoded by the device.  When the> device is manufactured, the two keys will be deposited separately> in two "key-escrow" data bases that will be established by the> Attorney General.  Access to these keys will be limited to> government officials with legal authorization to conduct a> wiretap.Just as they only can wiretap now with a warrent. > The "Clipper Chip" technology provides law enforcement with no> new authorities to access the content of the private> conversations of Americans.Just makes sure that the illegal ones are preserved.> To demonstrate the effectiveness of this new technology, the> Attorney General will soon purchase several thousand of the new> devices.  In addition, respected experts from outside the> government will be offered access to the confidential details of> the algorithm to assess its capabilities and publicly report> their findings.Where do you find many experts. Any ex KGB people looking for a contract? :-)And as a later posting asks, what of the STU-IIIs they already have. It willbe very interesting to see if the military and US embasies start to use it.After all, it is secure, isn't it. The govt will answer that point by its ownactions.> The chip is an important step in addressing the problem of> encryption's dual-edge sword:  encryption helps to protect the> privacy of individuals and industry, but it also can shield> criminals and terrorists.  We need the "Clipper Chip" and other> approaches that can both provide law-abiding citizens with access> to the encryption they need and prevent criminals from using it> to hide their illegal activities.  In order to assess technology> trends and explore new approaches (like the key-escrow system),> the President has directed government agencies to develop a> comprehensive policy on encryption that accommodates:> >      --   the privacy of our citizens, including the need to>           employ voice or data encryption for business purposes;                                                ^^^^^^^^Again, personal use seems to be a unaskable question.> >      --   the ability of authorized officials to access telephone>           calls and data, under proper court or other legal                                                  ^^^^^>           order, when necessary to protect our citizens;Ah, so warrents are not always needed it seems.> >      --   the effective and timely use of the most modern>           technology to build the National Information>           Infrastructure needed to promote economic growth and>           the competitiveness of American industry in the global

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