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Path: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!rochester!udel!darwin.sura.net!gatech!rutgers!igor.rutgers.edu!geneva.rutgers.edu!christianFrom: gt7122b@prism.gatech.edu (boundary, the catechist)Newsgroups: soc.religion.christianSubject: Re: Am I going to Hell?Message-ID: <Apr.25.22.17.57.1993.5453@geneva.rutgers.edu>Date: 26 Apr 93 02:17:58 GMTSender: hedrick@geneva.rutgers.eduOrganization: Georgia Institute of TechnologyLines: 45Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.eduIn article <Apr.23.02.55.31.1993.3123@geneva.rutgers.edu> tbrent@ecn.purdue.edu (Timothy J Brent) writes:>I have stated before that I do not consider myself an atheist, but >definitely do not believe in the christian god.  The recent discussion>about atheists and hell, combined with a post to another group (to the>effect of 'you will all go to hell') has me interested in the consensus >as to how a god might judge men.  As a catholic, I was told that a jew,>buddhist, etc. might go to heaven, but obviously some people do not>believe this.  Even more see atheists and pagans (I assume I would be >lumped into this category) to be hellbound.  I know you believe only>god can judge, and I do not ask you to, just for your opinions.Dear Tim:You say that you were a "catholic," but if you do not believe in the ChristianGod (I suppose that means the God of the Bible) and publicly state this,   you are in all probability not a Roman Catholic.  "Public heretics, eventhose who err in good faith (material heretics), do not belong to the bodyof the Church" (Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma, 1960, Ludwig Ott, p. 311).All is not lost, however, as you still might belong spiritually to theChurch by your desire to belong to it.  As you said, only God can judgethe condition of a man's soul.  About judgment, on the other hand, St. Paul 1 Cor 5:12) urges Christians to judge their fellow Christians. Following the Apostle's teaching, I judge that you should reconsider   returning to the Christian fold and embrace the God of Abraham, Isaac,and Jacob.  He is the God who lives.  Concerning what you were told about non-believers when you were a catholic,that is true.  As I have posted before, Vatican II (Lumen Gentium, II,   n. 16) teaches: "Those who, through no fault of their own, do not knowthe Gospel of Christ or His Chruch, but who nevertheless seek God with asincere heart, and moved by grace, try in their actions to do His willas they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too mayachieve eternal salvation."  Responding to your solicitation for opinions on the thinking processesof God, the best I can do is refer you to Scripture.  Scripture is oneof the best sources for learning what can be known about God.  Stick with the best.-- boundary, the catechist no teneis que pensar que yo haya venido a traer la paz a la tierra; no hevenido a traer la paz, sino la guerra (Mateo 10:34, tr. esp. Vulgata Latina) 

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