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Path: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!das-news.harvard.edu!noc.near.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!darwin.sura.net!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!concert!rutgers!igor.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christianFrom: nabil@cae.wisc.edu (Nabil Ayoub)Newsgroups: soc.religion.christianSubject: Re: Monophysites and Mike WalkerMessage-ID: <May.11.02.37.22.1993.28142@athos.rutgers.edu>Date: 11 May 93 06:37:23 GMTSender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.eduOrganization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of EngineeringLines: 47Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.eduIn article <May.9.05.38.52.1993.27378@athos.rutgers.edu> our moderatorcomments :>Chalcedon was a compromise between two groups, the Alexandrians and>Antiochenes.  It adopted language that was intended to be acceptable>to moderates in both camps, while ruling out the extremes.  I agree>that there were extremes that were heretical.  However in the course>of the complex politics of the time, it appears that some people got>rejected who didn't intend heresy, but simply used language that was>not understood or even was mispresented.  And some seem not to have>jointed in the compromise for reasons other than doctrine.  There are							     ^^^^^^^^^>groups descended from both of the supposedly heretical camps.  This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^>posting discussed the descendants of the Alexandrians.  There are also>a remaining Nestorians.  Like some of the current so-called>monophysites, there is reason to believe that the current so-called>Nestorians are not heretical either.  They sheltered Nestorius from>what they saw as unfair treatment, but claim they did not adopt his>heresies, and in fact seem to follow more moderate representatives of>the Antiochene tradition.>>--clh]There is a BIG difference between the status of what you refer to asAlexandrians (actually, this includes all Oriental Orthodox Churchesand not only Copts) and that of Nestorians. The Oriental OrthodoxChurches never even "shelter" Eutyches (the advocator of Monophysitism)but on the contrary, it condemned (and still does condemn) him and hisheresy. That is why the Eastren (Chalcedonian) Orthodox Church heldtalks with the Oriental (non-Chalcedonian) that started 30 years agoand still continueing till today, but they have converged on manyissues the most imporatant of which is Christology (I have more details of the inter-Orthodox dialogue, in case anyone is interested).So I do not see how the "Alexandrians" and the Nestorians are in asimilar position.Peace,Nabil          .-------------------------------------------------------------.         /  Nabil Ayoub                        ____/   __  /    ____/  /        /  Engine Research Center             /       /   /    /      /       /  Dept. of Mechanical Engineering    ___/    __  /    /      /      /  University of Wisconsin-Madison    /       /   |    /      /     /  Email:ayoub@erctitan.me.wisc.edu  _____/ __/   _|  _____/  /    '-------------------------------------------------------------'

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