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Path: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!rochester!udel!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!uunet!destroyer!cs.ubc.ca!mala.bc.ca!aplandFrom: apland@mala.bc.ca (Ron Apland)Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockeySubject: Re: plus minus statMessage-ID: <1993Apr15.164136.1682@mala.bc.ca>Date: 15 Apr 93 16:41:35 -0700References: <1993Apr15.105309.1@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi> <1993Apr15.161737.28377@sol.UVic.CA>Organization: Malaspina CollegeLines: 28In article <1993Apr15.161737.28377@sol.UVic.CA>, gballent@hudson.UVic.CA (Greg Ballentine) writes:> > In article 1@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi, hahietanen@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi () writes:>>In article <1993Apr14.174139.6604@sol.UVic.CA>, gballent@vancouver.UVic.CA (Greg Ballentine) writes:>>> >>> >>> +/- is a good stat because it is the only stat that I am aware of that>>> takes into account defensive play. It isn't a measure of defensive>>> play- it takes into account offense and defence- all aspects of play.>> >> If we are interested of real all-round players, the power play stats>> should be considered, too. Because the power play is also one aspect >> of play! There is still something to be done with these player evaluation>> tools!!> > IMO any good player should score on power plays because of the man> advantage. Very good power play scorers tend to become overrated> because their point totals are inflated by power play points.> +/- tends to expose these overrated players such as Brett Hull,> John Cullen and Dave Andreychuck.> > Given the opportunity to play power play consistently, any player can> inflate his totals.> > GregmeisterExcept for Vancouver, of course. Bure has a hard time scoring on thatpower play. He's got 7 shorthanded goals and 13 pp goals I think!
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