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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardwarePath: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!rochester!udel!wupost!howland.reston.ans.net!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!decwrl!apple!mumbo.apple.com!pcnntp.apple.com!gateway.qm.apple.com!Dale_AdamsFrom: Dale_Adams@gateway.qm.apple.com (Dale Adams)Subject: Re: 72-pin SIMMS for Q-800, be careful before buyingSender: news@pcnntp.apple.comMessage-ID: <1993Apr22.191947.6527@pcnntp.apple.com>Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1993 19:19:47 GMTReferences: <C5w9v0.FCE@news.cso.uiuc.edu>Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.,  Cupertino, CALines: 22In article <C5w9v0.FCE@news.cso.uiuc.edu> Marty Sachs <msachs@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> writes:> I purchased 2x8 MB 72-pin (60 ns) SIMMs for my Quadra 800 from Chip> Merchant (I've been very satisfied with them in the past).  Either one> alone works, but both together fail.  I called Apple for advice and was> told that there was a problem with "Composite" SIMMs.  Only non-composite> SIMMs should be used with the Q-800.  Chip Merchant confirmed that they> presently sell only composite 72-pin SIMMs.  So, Q-800 SIMMs need to be> both 60 ns and non-composite.8 MB SIMMs do not have to be composite SIMMs, although many (most?) 16 MB SIMMs are.  72-pin SIMMs allow two memory banks per SIMM, thus permitting the use of 4 Mb DRAM devices (the same ones used on 4 MB SIMMs) to be used for two 4 MB banks on one SIMM.  I can't imagine that it would be cheaper to build an 8 MB SIMM using 1 Mb DRAMs as the 4 Mb parts reached (and exceeded) bit for bit price parity with the 1 Mb parts some time ago.  It's probably possible to build a single-bank 8 MB SIMM using 4 Mb parts - this could cause problems in a Q800.  I'm not sure why you'd want to do this, though, as a dual-bank 8 MB SIMM would be cheaper to build than a single-bank composite one.- Dale Adams

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