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Xref: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu talk.politics.misc:178927 talk.politics.guns:54556 misc.legal:60939Path: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!das-news.harvard.edu!noc.near.net!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!cleveland.Freenet.Edu!aj359From: aj359@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Christopher C. Morton)Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,talk.politics.guns,misc.legalSubject: Re: WACO burningDate: 23 Apr 1993 15:11:07 GMTOrganization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)Lines: 46Message-ID: <1r90ub$jiq@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>References: <C5v15A.7oo@dscomsa.desy.de> <C5uyG1.7q9@acsu.buffalo.edu> <1r6ahc$m9p@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> <1993Apr22.220243.15254@convex.com>Reply-To: aj359@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Christopher C. Morton)NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.eduIn a previous article, tighe@convex.COM (Mike Tighe) says:>aj359@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Christopher C. Morton) writes:>>>In a previous article, v111qheg@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (P.VASILION) says:>>>>Can you imagine what happens when a magazine explodes? Bullets go flying>>>every where. IMHO, these "gunshot wounds" were actually caused when the>>>magazines went up. A Texas ranger does not a pathologist make, so I'll wait>>>for an autopsy to determine if they were shot first.>>>A more likely explanation is that they shot themselves.  Of course some>>people may think that it hurts more to be shot than to burn to death.>>Perhaps nobody was shot.>>Just about everything the ATF/FBI has claimed has turned out to be a lie or>unsupported by evidence/fact. I wish the media would recognize this and>start asking some tough questions, so we could get some real answers.>>The most recent example occurred Thursday afternoon, when the Medical>Examiner reported that of the 35 bodies recovered so far, none have bullet>wounds in them. He also stated that many of the bodies were face down.>This contradicts ATF/FBI claims that some were shot in the head, and were>found face up.>>When asked about the ATF/FBI reports that some had been shot he replied,>"there is absolutely no evidence of that" ... "It appears they died from>smoke inhalation".Your point is well taken.  I heard him on TV last night.  Sometimes Iforget to not believe ANYTHING the FBI/BATF says.  The problem is that Igenerally expect better from the FBI than from the BATF.  Unfortunately,the FBI seems so desparate to deflect ANY criticism of themselves thatthey are grasping at ANY straw, no matter how thin.I saw in the "Cleveland Plain Dealer" this morning a report that the CEVcrew threw CS *CANNISTERS* into the Davidian house.  I KNOW frompersonal experience that burning type devices start fires.  I certainlyput out enough of them in the pine forests of Ft. Benning in the summerof '80.  I'd like to know if they really threw burning CS grenades.-- *************************************************************************If you were smarter, you'd have these opinions....*******************************************************************************

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