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Newsgroups: talk.politics.miscPath: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!crabapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!news.sei.cmu.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!news.cso.uiuc.edu!uxh.cso.uiuc.edu!kkoppFrom: kkopp@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (koppenhoefer kyle cramm)Subject: Re: Kyle K. on Rodney KingDate: Sun, 18 Apr 1993 23:52:10 GMTMessage-ID: <C5pEAy.M15@news.cso.uiuc.edu>Distribution: usaReferences: <C5Lp0y.FDK@news.cso.uiuc.edu> <1993Apr17.195929.13203@midway.uchicago.edu> <C5nH58.Hp4@news.cso.uiuc.edu> <1993Apr18.212521.26985@midway.uchicago.edu>Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner)Organization: University of Illinois at UrbanaLines: 54thf2@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:>In article <C5nH58.Hp4@news.cso.uiuc.edu> kkopp@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (koppenhoefer kyle cramm) writes:>>thf2@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:>>>In article <C5Lp0y.FDK@news.cso.uiuc.edu> kkopp@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (koppenhoefer kyle cramm) writes:>>>>How about the fact that you have a bunch of cops putting their lives on>>>>the line day in and day out who are afraid as hell of a large black guy that>>> ^^^^^>>>>took a large amount of punishment and refused submit? >>>>>I'm curious why you think that particular adjective is important.>>>>I'm curious why you took a beign statement and cross-posted it to several>>different news groups, including something along the lines of >>alt.discrimination. >Exsqueeze me? I saw *your* original post in alt.discrimination.>Your post was cross-posted to three groups. My followup was cross-posted>to two of those three (omitting soc.motss).>Now, instead of engaging in meta-discussion off the topic, could you answer >the question posed? If your statement is so "beign"(!?), you should have no>trouble politely responding to a polite query. Well, I don't think your query was exactly polite, but I will TRY togive you a polite responce. Something atypical of the net, but here it goes. Black is a descriptive adjective that describes Mr. King. From manyof the newspaper, radio, and tv news reports I have seen, this adjective is commonly in front of his name. I have NEVER seen anyone complain aboutthe use of this adjective when used in a benign manner. I did not say thatMr. King was a no good black! I do not know Mr. King and would not make thisascertian without some evidence to this effect. I used it PURELY as a descriptive adjective in the same manner than many ( most ) news people haveused it in the past. The entire second trial was about race, Ted. I don't feel compelled todiscuss Mr. King's racial background, but had Mr. King been white there wouldnot have been a second trial. You probably are saying that the beating wouldnot have occurred if he were white, but that is an extremely difficult callto make. It is possible the case, but not definately. I still think your actions are crap, Ted. They are far more divisive thanme using the adjective 'black' in a non-derogenory manner. Would you havebeen happier if I had used 'African-american' ? If so, then you really arelost in the world of PC. You have already been instrumental in getting onepersons net access revoked, and I wonder if you have sent a copy of my message to my sys admin with a plea that I am not worthy of posting. The way you went about this 'polite' inquiry makes me believe it was anything but.
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