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Xref: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu misc.headlines:41588 talk.politics.misc:176984 talk.politics.mideast:75413 alt.conspiracy:21400 alt.censorship:15356 alt.politics.media:325Path: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!das-news.harvard.edu!ogicse!network.ucsd.edu!usc!aludra.usc.edu!not-for-mailFrom: sgoldste@aludra.usc.edu (Fogbound Child)Newsgroups: misc.headlines,talk.politics.misc,talk.politics.mideast,alt.conspiracy,alt.censorship,alt.politics.mediaSubject: Re: NEWS YOU MAY HAVE MISSED, Mar 29Message-ID: <1pscv2INNcn3@aludra.usc.edu>Date: 6 Apr 93 03:00:18 GMTArticle-I.D.: aludra.1pscv2INNcn3References: <1p7b51$smg@genesis.MCS.COM> <1993Apr1.214856.5339@Rapnet.Sanders.Lockheed.Com> <1pkl2n$kka@genesis.MCS.COM> <1ppsceINNdsr@aludra.usc.edu> <1pqfmh$ecj@genesis.MCS.COM>Sender: nntp@aludra.usc.eduOrganization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CALines: 58NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.eduarf@genesis.MCS.COM (Jack Schmidling) writes:>In article <1ppsceINNdsr@aludra.usc.edu> sgoldste@aludra.usc.edu (Fogbound Child) writes:>>>>Jack, I happen to be Jewish and have some serious problems with the whole>>situation in Israel. But your exaggerations and commentary certainly don't help>>to support your viewpoint. Here, for example, you are conflating two separate>>stories, and exaggerating both of them.>If I have confused two different stories, it was an honest mistake but I do>not see why it becomes an exageration of either.  They both took place andBoth events took place, but not as you described them. It feels trivial tonit-pick about details like this, and insulting to everyone involved.But I feel that the truth is more damning than an exaggeration, andmuch more likely to cause people to think when they read it.In general, when I read an argument that uses inaccurate and inflamatorystatements (honest mistake or not), I tend to dismiss the entire argumentbecause of those errors.The entire situation in the Middle East is too important to reduce toback-and-forth propaganda -- it is precisely this reduction that furtherpolarizes the situation and makes peace, understanding, and reconcilliationimpossible.>are both equally disgusting behavior for any country, let alone one that>brags constantly about democracy.Agreed. It would have been better if both situations could have been avoided.[I accidently deleted the line about how it would be better if more of YOU PEOPLE would do something about disgust and closets]What's this YOU PEOPLE stuff anyway? How does it contribute to arational discussion of the issues?>in the closet,  we wouldn't be having this discussion.>Having said, you have my heartfelt thanks and admiration for even saying>what you have said already.  I suspect, you will be getting more  hate>mail than support.Frankly, I've received no mail on the subject, hateful or supportive.>Thanks,>js___Samuel___Mossad Special Agent ID314159Media Spiking and Mind Control DivisionLos Angeles Offices-- _________Pratice Safe .Signature! Prevent Dangerous Signature Virii!_______Guildenstern: Our names shouted in a certain dawn ... a message ... a              summons ... There must have been a moment, at the beginning,              where we could have said -- no. But somehow we missed it.

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