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Xref: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu talk.politics.guns:54347 talk.politics.misc:178678 soc.culture.jewish:63129Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns,talk.politics.misc,soc.culture.jewishPath: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!das-news.harvard.edu!noc.near.net!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!sdd.hp.com!apollo.hp.com!netnewsFrom: nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson)Subject: Re: Who's next? Mormons and Jews?Sender: usenet@apollo.hp.com (Usenet News)Message-ID: <C5sAnJ.35v@apollo.hp.com>Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1993 13:26:07 GMTReferences: <1993Apr20.003522.22480@midway.uchicago.edu> <1993Apr20.054839.14002@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> <C5s5n0.DyJ@world.std.com>Nntp-Posting-Host: c.ch.apollo.hp.comOrganization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MALines: 23In article <C5s5n0.DyJ@world.std.com> rjk@world.std.com (Robert J. Kolker) writes:>Thank you for remembering Matzada. Matzada was not an insane act. It was>a sanctification of G_D's name and the most extreme denial of tyranny>possible. To this day the officers of the Tzahal (Isreal Defense Force)>take their oath at the fortress. Lo Tepol Shaynit Matzadah. Matzadah will>not fall again!>>Conan the Libertarian This is hilarious. Here we have a self-described libertarian getting all sentimental over a religious and national entity not exactly known for respecting individualism. In somewhat more detail it should be noted that the whole concept of a religion, and especially a patriarchial one like Judaism (or Islam, or Christianity) is obediance to rules and authority. Leviticus, Deuteronomy, etc are FULL of "thou shalt"s and "thou shalt not"s. And of course Israel's concept of human rights, while no doubt better than places like Syria's or Iraqs, is hardly the stuff to warm the cockles of a libertarian's heart.---peter
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