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Path: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!magnesium.club.cc.cmu.edu!news.sei.cmu.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!inmet!bu.edu!buphy.bu.edu!jaegerFrom: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)Newsgroups: alt.atheismSubject: Re: Yet more Rushdie [Re: ISLAMIC LAW]Message-ID: <116670@bu.edu>Date: 23 Apr 93 21:24:30 GMTReferences: <1993Apr15.215833.15970@bnr.ca> <115694@bu.edu> <1993Apr21.171807.16785@bnr.ca>Sender: news@bu.eduOrganization: Boston University Physics DepartmentLines: 39In article <1993Apr21.171807.16785@bnr.ca> (Rashid) writes:>In article <115694@bu.edu>, jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) wrote:>> I think many reading this group would also benefit by knowing how>> deviant the view _as I've articulated it above_ (which may not be>> the true view of Khomeini) is from the basic principles of Islam. >> So that the non-muslim readers of this group will see how far from >> the simple basics of Islam such views are on the face of them. And >> if they are _not_ in contradiction with the basics of Islam, how >> subtle such issues are and how it seems sects exist in Islam while >> they are explicitly proscribed by the Qur'an.>Discussing it here is fine by me. Shall we start a new thread called,>say, "Infallibility in Islam" and move the discussion there?I think this should be illuminating to all. Let me make a firstsuggestion. When Arabic words, especially technical ones, become of use let us define them for those, especially atheists, to whom they may not beterribly familiar. Please also note that though I did initially referto Khomeini as a heretic for what I understood to be a claim -- rejected by you since -- of personal infallibility, I withdraw this as a basisfor such a statement. I conditionally retain this reference in regardto Khomeini's advocacy of the thesis of the infallibility of the so-called "Twelve Imams," which is in clear conflict with the Qur'an in that it places the Twelve Imams in a category of behavior and examplehigher than that of the Muhammad, in that the Qur'an shows that theProphet was clearly fallible, as well as (it appears, given yourabstruse theological statment regarding the "natures"  of the TwelveImams) placing them in a different metaphysical category than the remainder of humanity, with the possible exception of Muhammad, something which verges on the sin of association.>As salam a-laikumAlaikum Wassalam,Gregg

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