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Path: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!das-news.harvard.edu!husc-news.harvard.edu!kuhub.cc.ukans.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net! sgiblab!adagio.panasonic.com!nntp-server.caltech.edu!keithNewsgroups: alt.atheismSubject: Re: <Political Atheists?Message-ID: <1pq38hINNmel@gap.caltech.edu>From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider)Date: 5 Apr 1993 20:02:25 GMTReferences: <1p3bn9INN98r@gap.caltech.edu> <1p5p1j$ijd@fido.asd.sgi.com> <1p6rgcINNhfb@gap.caltech.edu> <1p88fi$4vv@fido.asd.sgi.com> <1p9bseINNi6o@gap.caltech.edu> <1pamva$b6j@fido.asd.sgi.com> <1pcq4pINNqp1@gap.caltech.edu> <30071@ursa.bear.com>Organization: California Institute of Technology, PasadenaNNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.eduLines: 22halat@pooh.bears (Jim Halat) writes:>>I think an objective morality does exist, but that most flavors of morality>>are only approximations to it. Once again, a natural or objective morality>>is fairly easily defined, as long as you have a goal in mind--that is, what>>is the purpose of this morality.>Maybe I'm not quite getting what you mean by this, but I think objective >morality is an oxymoron. By definition, it seems, any _goal_ oriented >issue like this is subjective by nature. I don't get how you're using>the word objective.But, the goal need not be a subjective one. For instance, the goal ofnatural morality is the propogation of a species, perhaps. It wasn'treally until the more intelligent animals came along that some revisionsto this were necessary. Intelligent animals have different needs thanthe others, and hence a morality suited to them must be a bit morecomplicated than "the law of the jungle." I don't think thatself-actualization is so subjective as you might think. And, byobjectivity, I am assuming that the ideals of any such system could becarried out completely.keith
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