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Xref: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu talk.abortion:120547 alt.atheism:53100 talk.religion.misc:83563Path: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!das-news.harvard.edu!noc.near.net!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!ames!olivea!sgigate!odin!fido!solntze.wpd.sgi.com!liveseyFrom: livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey)Newsgroups: talk.abortion,alt.atheism,talk.religion.miscSubject: Re: After 2000 years, can we say that Christian Morality isMessage-ID: <1qknuh$k@fido.asd.sgi.com>Date: 15 Apr 93 22:34:57 GMTReferences: <kmr4.1571.734847050@po.CWRU.edu> <1qjbn0$na4@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de> <1qk1md$6gs@kyle.eitech.com> <1qkjvc$4jv@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de>Organization: sgiLines: 32NNTP-Posting-Host: solntze.wpd.sgi.comIn article <1qkjvc$4jv@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de>, frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes:|> In article <1qk1md$6gs@kyle.eitech.com> ekr@kyle.eitech.com (Eric Rescorla) writes:|> #In article <1qjbn0$na4@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de> frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes:|> #>In article <kmr4.1571.734847050@po.CWRU.edu> kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M. Ryan) writes:|> #>#	You have only pushed back the undefined meaning. You must now define |> #>#what "objective values" are.|> #>|> #>Really?  You don't know what objective value is?  If I offered the people|> #>of the U.S., collectively, $1 for all of the land in America, would that |> #>sound like a good deal?  |> #Well, that would depend on how much we wanted the US and how much|> #we wanted the $1, wouldn't it?|> |> Yes it would.  Luckily these parameters are fixed by reality.  If I can|> predict with almost 100% accuracy that Americans prefer to own their portions of|> the US than an infinitesmal portion of $1, in what sense are these values|> not objective? Not only are they not objective, but they don't even stay constantover time.   A young farmer and an old farmer on the verge of retirement have quite different ideas about the relative values of a piece of land and a dollar bill.Similarly, a person viewing an anonymous piece of land, and a person viewing a piece of land that his family has lived on forgenerations.These values are essentially subjective, and that's why we havemarkets: to allow people to match their valuations of land anddollar bills.jon.

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