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From: [e-mail] (Red Herring)
Subject: Re: Who's next?  Mormons and Jews?
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (John P. Mechalas) writes:
>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Red Herring) writes:
>>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (John P. Mechalas) writes:
>>>>Although I'm an atheist, the events in Waco have really sickened me.  It's
>>>>truely a sad day for religious freedom in this country.  The Branch
>>>>Dividians may have been nutty (my general opinion of all religious people),
>>>>but tax evasion and illegal possesion of firearms are certainly not grounds
>>>>for destroying a people.
>>>
>>>Excuse me?  WHO destroyed the BD's?  Last I knew, they burned themselves...
>>
>>   Where did you get this information?  The FBI stated they were not
>>   aware of any mass suicide plans, ditto Koresh's attorneys who appeared
>>   on Larry King's Live yesterday, and the survivors claim the fire was started
>>   from the outside...
>
>So what if the FBI wasn't aware of suicide plans?  

    That means that BD's had no plans to commit suecide.

                                                        This may not even be an
>]accurate statement, anyway, since the last report of listening devices used
>in the compound may reveal new information.  We'll have to wait.

    Are you saying the FBI may have actually received information that BD's were 
    going to burn themselves alive and did not stop the assault?  Even if that
    were true, you gotta be kidding if you expect them to release that kind of 
    information to the public.

>   And what did you expect Koresh's attorneys to say?  Their credibility
>is shot anyway, since they *origianlly* said that Koresh was going to surrender
>after the Passover.  We saw how accurate that was.

    That's not what Koresh's attorney said on Larry King's Live. He said
    that Koresh was not going to come out before the Passover, and that he and
    his leutenant were "working day and night" on some kind of religious
    manuscript (something about the Seven Seals) and that once they finished
    they would come out.  K.'s attorney also said that the day before the
    assault an armored vehicle delivered typewriter supplies to the compound,
    and that the FBI promised many times there would not be another attack,
    that the matters would be resolved peacefully.

>   And the survivors claim the fire was started from the outside.  Outside 
>meaning outside the compound?  

    No, they meant that BD's did not set the place on fire.

Yes, the FBI reported seeing two people
>(according to CNN reports) using torches to set the compound on fire.   They
>were outside.

    That was the initial claim, but I do not believe it has been repeated
    since.  Anyway, I'd like to see a tape.  The FBI surely videotaped
    the whole operation. All conversations must have been recorded too.

    How come the two were not shot by the FBI snipers?

>
>   Either way, I have evidence to support the theory that the BD's burned
>themselves. 

    What evidence?

> You made a serious implication that the FBI was responsible
>for the fire and the "destruction of the people".  > All you have done is
>put doubt on who started the fire without providing any evidence to back
>up your claim that the FBI was responsible.

    That is what the survivors claim.  I'd like to see some evidence
    that people that everyone agrees were not going to commit suecide
    actually did it.

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