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Xref: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu talk.abortion:120555 alt.atheism:53109 talk.religion.misc:83571Path: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!das-news.harvard.edu!noc.near.net!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!po.CWRU.edu!kmr4From: kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M. Ryan)Newsgroups: talk.abortion,alt.atheism,talk.religion.miscSubject: Re: After 2000 years, can we say that Christian Morality isDate: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 23:04:44 GMTOrganization: Case Western Reserve UniversityLines: 25Message-ID: <kmr4.1590.734915084@po.CWRU.edu>References: <rayC5JAK7.D7E@netcom.com> <1qkhju$43c@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de> <kmr4.1587.734911207@po.CWRU.edu> <1qkoel$5fr@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de>NNTP-Posting-Host: b64635.student.cwru.eduIn article <1qkoel$5fr@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de> frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes:>Good question, my point was that a world with truth is better than a world>with falsehood. A world in which it were possible to say "yes, I am>holding a Jew" (the truth) and you, me, the Jew, and the SS guy all sit>down to crack open a bottle of whiskey is better than the grim alternatives >you present. Obviously, this is not possible, and the best alternative seems>to be to lie. That's because other values are involved, such as life.>Now that IS just my opinion - don't confuse the claim 'objective morality>exists' with the claim 'I have a lock on morals'. So then, it is not objectively better to tell the truth. There are some subjective situations within which, it is better to lie. I agree that it is my subjective opinion that a world without SS troops and the like would be better. It is also when using certain systems to judge the situations, such as unitarianism, that it is objectively better.--- Only when the Sun starts to orbit the Earth will I accept the Bible.
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