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Xref: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu talk.abortion:121471 alt.atheism:54090 talk.religion.misc:84309Newsgroups: talk.abortion,alt.atheism,talk.religion.miscPath: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!crabapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!news.sei.cmu.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!wri!elvis.wri.com!markpFrom: markp@elvis.wri.com (Mark Pundurs)Subject: Re: After 2000 years, can we say that Christian Morality isMessage-ID: <markp.735230626@elvis.wri.com>Sender: news@wri.comNntp-Posting-Host: elvis.wri.comOrganization: Wolfram Research, Inc.References: <C5Fuo2.FF8@news.cso.uiuc.edu> <1qg8bu$kl5@fido.asd.sgi.com> <1qgouk$rln@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de> <930415.112243.8v6.rusnews.w165w@mantis.co.uk>Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 14:43:46 GMTLines: 27In <930415.112243.8v6.rusnews.w165w@mantis.co.uk> mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew) writes:>There's no objective physics; Einstein and Bohr have told us that.Speaking as one who knows relativity and quantum mechanics, I say: Bullshit.>There's no objective reality.  LSD should be sufficient to prove that.Speaking as one who has taken LSD, I say: Bullshit.>> One wonders just what people who ask such questions understand by the term >> "objective", if anything.>I consider it to be a useful fiction; an abstract ideal we can strive>towards.  Like an ideal gas or a light inextensible string, it doesn't>actually exist; but we can talk about things as if they were like it, and not>be too far wrong.How could striving toward an ideal be in any way useful, if the ideal had no objective existence?--Mark Pundursany resemblance between my opinions and those of Wolfram Research, Inc. is purely coincidental

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