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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.miscPath: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!das-news.harvard.edu!noc.near.net!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!cs.utexas.edu!csc.ti.com!tilde.csc.ti.com!mksol!mccallFrom: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)Subject: Re: Question on EISA video board performanceMessage-ID: <1993Apr30.215740.12135@mksol.dseg.ti.com>Organization: Texas Instruments IncReferences: <C68uBG.K2w@world.std.com> <1993Apr30.122333.828@hubcap.clemson.edu>Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1993 21:57:40 GMTLines: 42In <1993Apr30.122333.828@hubcap.clemson.edu> charlea@eng.clemson.edu (charles allen) writes:>From article <C68uBG.K2w@world.std.com>, by cfw@world.std.com (Christopher F Wroten):>> I have an EISA machine and I just do not understand why most>> EISA video cards only match the performance of their ISA>> counterparts. For instance, the EISA Orchid Pro Designer IIs-E is>> only about as "fast" as the ISA Diamond SpeedStar Plus, which isn't>> what I would call "fast.">> >> I don't understand why EISA video cards aren't, as a group, on the>> same level of performance as Local Bus cards, given that EISA video>> cards have a 32 bit bus to move data around, instead of ISA's 8 bits.>> >Good question.>Answer: The EISA bus does move 32 bits rather than ISA's 8/(16?)>        But it still moves it at about the speed as the ISA bus.>        I think that's either 8 or 10 mhz.>        The local bus designs also move 32 bits like the EISA, but>        they move the data at the cpu speed, up to 40 mhz.>        So, on a 33mhz cpu, the local bus is moving 32bit data at>        33 mhz, and the EISA is moving 32bit data at 8 or 10 mhz.>        So the local bus should be 3 to 4 times faster than EISA on>        a 33 mhz cpu.  EISA should be about two (maybe 3) times as>        fast as ISA.I would expect the EISA board to be more than twice as fast as the ISAboard.  Not only are you moving data on a path twice as wide (atleast), but there is a difference in the number of clocks required forbus transactions between the two busses.  Most ISA boards requiremultiple clocks per bus transaction -- typically this is around 3-4.EISA boards are suppose to be able to 'burst' at a 1:1 rate, so Iwould expect performance to be 6x-8x that of an ISA card.  So I guess, for me, the question is unanswered still.  I would expecthim to be able to see a 6x speed difference, and he apparently doesnot.  -- "Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden------------------------------------------------------------------------------Fred.McCall@dseg.ti.com - I don't speak for others and they don't speak for me.

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