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Xref: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu alt.psychology.personality:945 sci.med:59205Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality,sci.medPath: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!das-news.harvard.edu!noc.near.net!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!torn!newshub.ccs.yorku.ca!nexus.yorku.ca!tonyFrom: tony@nexus.yorku.ca (Anthony Wallis)Subject: "Choleric" and The Great NT/NF Semantic War.Message-ID: <C5xpz6.3wA@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System)Organization: York UniversityReferences: <noringC5wzM4.41n@netcom.com>Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1993 11:45:05 GMTLines: 64[Cross-posted from alt.psychology.personality since it talks about physician's personalities. Apologies to sci.med readers not familiar with the Myers-Briggs "NT/NF" personality terms. But, in a word or two, the NTs (iNtuitive->Thinkers) are approximately your philosophy/science/tech pragmatic types, and the NFs (iNtuitive-Feelers) are your humanities/social-"science"/theology idealistic types. They hate each others' guts (:-)) but tend to inter-marry. The letter "J" is a reference to conscienciousness/decisiveness.]Jon Noring emits typical NF-type stuff > [Physicians] are just responding in their natural way:> Hyper-Choleric Syndrome (HCS). ..> ..it is fascinating that a disproportionate number of> physicians will type out as NT ..> One driving characteristic of an NT, especially an NTJ, is their obvious> choleric behavior (driver, type A, etc.) - the extreme emotional need to> control, to lead, and/or to be the best or the most competent. ..Please get it right, Jon.(This NTJ has a strong desire to correct semantic mistakes, because the NFs of this world are fouling the once-pristine NT intellectual nest with their verbal poop.)The dominant correlation is NT <-> Phlegmatic (and _not_ NT <-> Choleric).One of the semantic roots of "choleric" is the idea of "hot" (emotional)and one of the semantic roots of "phlegmatic" is "cold" (unemotional).Here is a thumbnail sketch (taken from Hans Eysenck, refering to Wundt)relating the Ancient Greek quadratic typology with modern terms:------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Emotional ^ ("Melancholic") | ("Choleric") | Thoughtful Suspicious | Quickly-aroused Hotheaded Unhappy Worried | Egocentric Histrionic Anxious | Exhibitonist Serious | Active Unchangeable < ------------------------------------------------> Changeable Calm | Playful Reasonable | Carefree Steadfast Persistent | Hopeful Sociable Highly-principled Controlled | Controlled Easy-going | ("Phlegmatic") | ("Sanguine") | v Non-emotional------------------------------------------------------------------------------I suspect that your characterisation of NTs as "choleric" is whatyou psych-types call a "projection" of your own NF-ness onto us.> Maybe we need more NF doctor's. :^)Perhaps in serious pediatics and "my little boy's got a runnynose, doctor" general practice, but, please God, not in neurology,opthamology, urology, etc. etc. And NF-psychiatry should seperatefrom NT-(i.e. real) psychiatry and be given a new name .. something like "channeling" :-).--tony@nexus.yorku.ca = Tony Wallis, York University, Toronto, Canada
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