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Xref: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu sci.space:61459 sci.space.shuttle:12959 sci.astro:35294Path: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!magnesium.club.cc.cmu.edu!pitt.edu!uunet!digex.com!digex.net!not-for-mailFrom: prb@access.digex.net (Pat)Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.space.shuttle,sci.astroSubject: Re: HST Servicing Mission Scheduled for 11 DaysMessage-ID: <1rrhlo$ajb@access.digex.net>Date: 30 Apr 93 15:47:04 GMTReferences: <23APR199316425663@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov> <3t75nhg@rpi.edu> <1rq3os$64i@access.digex.net> <1993Apr30.101054.1@stsci.edu>Distribution: naOrganization: Express Access Online Communications USALines: 75NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.netIn article <1993Apr30.101054.1@stsci.edu> hathaway@stsci.edu writes:>In article <1rq3os$64i@access.digex.net>, prb@access.digex.net (Pat) writes:>> In article <3t75nhg@rpi.edu> strider@clotho.acm.rpi.edu (Greg Moore) writes:|> ||> | As Herny pointed out, you have to develop the thruster.|> |Also, while much lighter, you still have to lift the mass of|> |the thruster to orbit, and then the thruster lifts its own |> |weight into a higher orbit. And you take up room in the payload|>>bay.|>>|> |> a yes, but the improvement in boost orbit to the HST is Significant,||I do not understand what you are saying here. What is improved, what |is Significant, and what does this have to do with carrying more |equipment on a servicing mission? Also, as implied by other posters, why |do you need to boost the orbit on this mission anyway? Maybe you have |something here, but could you please clarify it for us on the net? |RIght now the HST sevicing mission is listed as 11 days. beforeit was listed as 9 days. they just kicked up the number of spacewalksto 5, after simulations indicated that it was not do-able in 4. After all the space walking, they are going to re-boost the HST'sorbit. I think right now it's sitting at 180 miles up,they would like 220. I don't know the exact orbit numbers.I know when HST was first flown, it was placed in the Highestpossible Shuttle orbit. Now the shuttle can cary a thing called the EDO pallet, or extendedduration orbiter pallet. It's mostly LOX/LH for the fuel cellsand RCS gear, plus more O2 and canisters for the life supportre-breathers. maybe more nitrogen too.THe limit on space-walking is a function of suit supplies (MASS)and Orbiter Duration. In order to perform the re-boost of the HST, the OMS engineswill be fired for a long period. Now the shuttle is a heavything. THe HST isn't light either. THe amount of OMS fuelneeded to fly both up is substantial. a small boostercarried up and used to boost HST on it's own will weigh significantlyless then the OMS fuel required to Boost both HST and SHUttle,for a given orbital change. From what i understand, the mass margins on the HST missions aretight enough they can't even carry extra Suits or MMU's.Now if they used a small tug, I would bet, just a wild guess,that the savings on amss margin would allow carrying theEDO pallet, extra suits, more consumables, parts for theflaky FGS sensor, parts for the balky solar electronics,and still enough for a double magnum of champagne.or the HST could even get placed into some sort of medium orbit.The reason they want a high orbit, is less antenna pointing,and longer drag life.|> and that means you can then carry EDO packs and enough consumables|> so the SHuttle mission can go on long enough to also fix the|> array tilt motors, and god knows what else is going to wear out||From what I've heard, the motors are fine - it is one of the two |sets of electronics that control the motors that needs a fix. The |motors and electronics are separate pieces of hardware. I expect |to be corrected if I'm wrong on this. |aWhatever it is, the problem in the tilt array is a big constrainton HST ops.pat
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