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Newsgroups: talk.politics.gunsPath: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!crabapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!fs7.ece.cmu.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!headwall.Stanford.EDU!CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU!SAIL.Stanford.EDU!andyFrom: andy@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman)Subject: Re: criminals & machinegunsMessage-ID: <1993Apr16.202441.16032@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>Sender: news@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDUOrganization: Computer Science Department,  Stanford University.References: <1qh4hkINNggo@snoopy.cis.ufl.edu> <93104.175256U28037@uicvm.uic.edu>Distribution: usaDate: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 20:24:41 GMTLines: 30In article <93104.175256U28037@uicvm.uic.edu> Jason Kratz <U28037@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:>people are getting killed by gang violence every day?  Every single day I hear>about more people getting killed by gang violence and see some of the weapons>that are being confiscated.Is Kratz claiming that he can reliably visually distinguish an M-16from an AR-15?  That he can see the difference between a semi-auto anda full-auto UZI?  That he can see the difference between the variousversions (some full-auto, some semi-auto only) of the M-11/9?If so, I'd love to hear the details, if only because they'll demonstratethat Kratz is blowing smoke.Considering that one can design a gun so that it looks just likeanother gun, yet have very different properties, and that that'squite common....Most kids in my neighborhood were quite young when they figured outthat my parents car wasn't much like Richard Petty's, even though itlooked just like it (except for the paint job).  Things must have beendifferent with Kratz.>Sure it's on TV but why does that make a difference?No, it doesn't, but that's irrelevant.  If visual inspection of theoutside worked, TV would be acceptable, but since it doesn't, the factthat it's just as good as seeing in person doesn't mean much.-andy gave Kratz a chance to back down on this in private--

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