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Xref: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu alt.politics.usa.constitution:2006 talk.politics.guns:54164 alt.society.sovereign:189Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa.constitution,talk.politics.guns,alt.society.sovereignPath: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!das-news.harvard.edu!noc.near.net!uunet!ulowell!img.ulowell.edu!jrutledgFrom: jrutledg@cs.ulowell.edu (John Lawrence Rutledge)Subject: Re: "militia" (incredibly long)Message-ID: <C5n0vy.EJ6@ulowell.ulowell.edu>Sender: usenet@ulowell.ulowell.edu (News manager - ulowell)Organization: Interactive Media Group - University of Massachusetts at LowellReferences: <1993Apr16.010235.14225@mtu.edu> <C5L0n2.5LL@ulowell.ulowell.edu> <1qna9m$nq8@transfer.stratus.com>Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1993 17:07:09 GMTLines: 54In article <1qna9m$nq8@transfer.stratus.com>, cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares) writes:-> In article <C5L0n2.5LL@ulowell.ulowell.edu>, jrutledg@cs.ulowell.edu (John Lawrence Rutledge) writes:-> > But, do you knew how much organization is required to training a large-> > group of poeple twice a year. Just to try to get the same people-> > every year, provide a basic training to new people so they can-> > be integrated into the force, and find a suitable location, it -> > requires a continually standing committee of organizers. -> -> Again, my response is, "so what?" Is Mr. Rutledge arguing that since-> the local and federal governments have abandoned their charter to support-> such activity, and passed laws prohibiting private organizations from -> doing so, that they have eliminated the basis for the RKBA? On the-> contrary, to anyone who understands the game, they have strengthened it.No, I originally argued that the Second Amendment was "a little bitand an anachronism." These prohibiting laws are examples why the arean anachronism. After all, laws in made by representatives of the people. These representatives of the people have already decidedthat the Second Amendment does not apply or is too broad in somecases. Since these representatives feel an unconditional interpretation is not wanted, then it is probable that they majorityof the people feel the same way. If this is so, it is an exampleof the people using their power of government. If this is nothow the people feel, the people should stand up and state their wishes. > Mox nix, Mr. Rutledge. YOU are the only one here claiming that the-> RKBA is dependent on the existence of a top-flight, well-regulated-> militia. Why this is a false assumption has already been posted a -> number of times. No, I simple stated that the people have a right to "join a wellorganized militia." And I have also stated that a militia thatmeets once or twice a year is clearly "well organized." And thisstate of readiness that I have claimed the people have a "right"to, is the same state of readiness expected of the militia as statedby Hamilton. -- +-----------------------------+-----------------------------------------------+| | "If only it were a modern document, with a || John Lawrence Rutledge | smart index and hyper links stretching all || Research Assistant | through the world data net. It was terribly || | frustrating to flip back and forth between || Interactive Media Group | the pages and crude flat illustrations that || Computer Science Department | never even moved. Nor were there animated || UMass - Lowell | arrows or zoom-ins. It completely lacked a || 1 University Ave. | for sound. || Lowell, MA 01854 | "Most baffling of all was the problem of new || | words... In normal text you'd only have to || (508) 934-3568 | touch an unfamiliar word and the definition || jrutledg@cs.ulowell.edu | would pop up just below." || | from David Brin's "Earth" |+-----------------------------+-----------------------------------------------+
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