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Xref: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu rec.backcountry:30940 talk.politics.guns:54248Path: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!das-news.harvard.edu!noc.near.net!howland.reston.ans.net!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!saimiri.primate.wisc.edu!ames!cronkite.cisco.com!pitargueFrom: pitargue@cisco.com (Marciano Pitargue)Newsgroups: rec.backcountry,talk.politics.gunsSubject: Re: guns in backcountry? no thanksFollowup-To: talk.politics.gunsDate: 15 Apr 1993 20:17:55 GMTOrganization: ciscoLines: 58Distribution: worldMessage-ID: <1qkftjINNoij@cronkite.cisco.com>References: <1qkcok$s9i@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>NNTP-Posting-Host: lager.cisco.comOriginator: pitargue@cisco.comIn article <1qkcok$s9i@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, ci946@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John K. Gever) writes:|> |> Do you Rambos who worry so much about rape and murder in the|> wilderness also carry your guns all the time at home too? You|> should, since you're in a hell of a lot more danger there than|> in the backcountry.when does carrying a tool classify someone as a rambo. so all thepioneers that came west were rambo's? adrienne!!! :-)|> |> Does anybody reading this group have an actual, honest-to-God|> experience with violent crime in the backcountry to tell about?|> |> I can sort of understand the people who want to protect themselves|> from bears and such, although there are, what, maybe a dozen or|> two bear attacks on people in North America each year? But to|> worry about being raped by some buck-toothed Bubba in overalls|> is just irrational. I think we'd all be a lot safer if all the|> videocassettes of "Deliverance" were gathered up and burned.would your tune change if you were one of the "dozen or two bear attacks"?believe me, when you need a firearm, you NEED a firearm.|> |> Public health experts will tell you that you are far more likely|> have your gun stolen, use it yourself on a family member or|> have it used on you than you are to use it on an actual criminal.please cite your references. i'll let others (please note followup)cite valid references to show you that this is an untruth.|> The Rambo warriors we've heard from here undoubtedly consider|> themselves exempt from this statistical reality -- they're much|> too smart and responsible. Living in a city where there's a|> drive-by shooting every couple of days, and working in a medical|> center where a day doesn't go by without a shooting victim coming|> into the ER, I'm just a bit skeptical about the value of gun|> ownership. I go to the backcountry to get away from this |> environment, and I don't want to find other people there who|> insist on bringing the urban environment along with them -- boom|> boxes, computers, or guns.well, you might as well go naked. forget the matches, backpack, sleepingbag and all the rest that's is a modern convenience. a firearm is justa tool. as some people won't carry gaiters, some people do. firearmsshould be in the same category. it should be a personal choice.and your factoid about shooting victims in the ER. count how many come indue to automobile accidents and automobile crimes. maybe we should outlawcars.|> |> Please post flaming responses to rec.guns.rabid >:-(|> - J. Gever, B'ham, Ala.marciano pitargue@cisco.com
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