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Xref: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu talk.religion.misc:83750 talk.politics.guns:54433 soc.culture.jewish:63185Newsgroups: talk.religion.misc,talk.politics.guns,soc.culture.jewishPath: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!rochester!rochester!udel!bogus.sura.net!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!linus!linus.mitre.org!jonFrom: jon@atlas.MITRE.org (J. E. Shum)Subject: Re: Who's next?  Mormons and Jews?Message-ID: <1993Apr20.235935.11418@linus.mitre.org>Originator: jon@atlasSender: news@linus.mitre.org (News Service)Nntp-Posting-Host: atlas.mitre.orgOrganization: The MITRE Corp. McLean Va.References: <1qvfik$6rf@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> <1qvh8n$gf4@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> <mcclaryC5snpq.KB1@netcom.com>Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1993 23:59:35 GMTLines: 37In article <mcclaryC5snpq.KB1@netcom.com>, mcclary@netcom.com (Michael McClary) writes:> In article <1qvh8n$gf4@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> friedenb@maple.egr.msu.edu> (Gedaliah Friedenberg) writes:> >> >Give me a break.  If the Mormons fortified Utah and armed it to the teeth,> >and were involved in illegal activity, then they deserve whatever they get.> > Actually, after surviving being driven out of Nauvoo, and later Carthage,> the Mormons DID fortify Utah.  They still arm themselves to "defend the> faith", and stockpile food as well.  They have been involved in quite a> lot of illegal activity - including multiple (and often underage) wives> for the leaders - a practice still in vogue with some splinters of their> sect.  The parallels between Koresh and Joseph Smith are striking.> > So what did the Mormons get?  It seems that J. Edgar Hoover was very> impressed with the way they kept secrets.  (They're pledged to defend> secrets with their lives and atone for sin with blood.  Many actually> do - even to the point of suicide.)  So he hired virtually no one but> Mormons, until the FBI was almost exclusively staffed by members of the> Church of Later Day Saints.  Though J. Edgar is finally gone, the FBI> personnel (especially the field agents) are still heavily Mormon.> > I have often wondered how this might affect the FBI's treatment> of religious organizations a Mormon would consider heretical.You make some very interesting claims here.  I'm not challenging them,mind you, but could you provide a reference or two about the make-upof F.B.I. personnel?   Thanks very much.-- Clinton Administration e-mail addresses | clintonhq@campaign92.org (MCIMail)    provided as a public service by     | 75300.3115@compuserve.com (CompuServe)    Jon Edward Shum (jon@mitre.org)     | clintonpz@aol.com (America Online)

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