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westine 86% dig adapt.net.com any ; <<>> DiG <<>> adapt.net.com any ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY , status: NOERROR, id: 6 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra Ques: 1, Ans: 2, Auth: 0, Addit: 2 ;; QUESTIONS: ;; adapt.net.com, type = ANY, class = IN ;; ANSWERS: adapt.net.com IN MX 10 ames.arc.nasa.gov ; 84029 adapt.net.com IN MX 20 tymix.tymnet.com ; 84029 ;; ADDITIONAL RECORDS: ames.arc.nasa.gov IN A 128.102.18.3 ; 158777 tymix.tymnet.com IN A 131.146.2.1 ; 86400************************************************************************Westine & Postel [Page 22]RFC 1211 Problems with Mailing Lists March 1991F.10. User Unknown Most "User Unknown" error messages listed individually on the main list get deleted. Those on a sublist, require a message to the postmaster or list maintainer. They are asked to delete the invalid user mailbox from their local list.************************************************************************F.10.1. Add User but Address Fails This is a case where the recipient was checking to see if his mailbox was already on the list and if not to readd him. He was readded to the list. A "user unknown" error message was received on the confirming message that was sent notifying recipient that he had been added.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ a. Message Sent to User And Postmaster To: postmaster@janus.enet.decl.com, postmaster@decwrl.dec.com Cc: westine, bryant@janus.enet.dec.com Subject: RE: <bryant@janus.enet.dec.com> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 90 10:15:40 PST From: Ann Westine <westine@venera.isi.edu> Hi Stewart and Postmaster, I readded your name to the IETF list but there seems to be problems with connections to DECnet hosts right now. I have seen lots of errors like this lately. Postmaster, please check into this. JANUS is not the only host with an error, there are other hosts like this in trouble. For example. From: MAILER-DAEMON@decwrl.dec.com (Mail Delivery Subsystem) Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown To: <@decpa.pa.dec.com:owner-ietf@venera.isi.edu> ----- Transcript of session follows ----- mail11: Error from DECnet MAIL object on node "erlang", during mail delivery to <ERLANG::CHIU>. Remote error code is 0x7e803a, message is: %MAIL-E-LOGLINK, error creating network link to node CHIU -SYSTEM-F-NOSUCHNODE, remote node is unknown 554 <erlang::chiu>... 550 Host unknown (Authoritative answerWestine & Postel [Page 23]RFC 1211 Problems with Mailing Lists March 1991 from name server) ----- Recipients of this delivery ----- <erlang::chiu> (bounced) <netrix::gillin> (sent) <erlang::rama> (sent) ------- Thank you, Ann To: "Stewart Bryant, RE02-G/H2, DTN: 830 4682" <bryant@janus.enet.dec.com> Cc: ietf-request@ISI.EDU Subject: Re: dist list In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 06 Nov 90 03:02:09 0800. <9011061056.AA11777@decpa.pa.dec.com> Date: Tue, 06 Nov 90 13:54:23 PST From: Ann Westine <westine@ISI.EDU> Hi Stewart, > Please will you check that I have not been deleted > from this distribution list. > > My email address is > bryant@janus.enet.dec.com I readded you to the list. Thanks, Ann ------- Forwarded Message Date: Tue, 06 Nov 90 17:25:15 -0800 From: MAILER-DAEMON@decwrl.dec.com To: westine@ISI.EDU Subject: Returned mail: User unknown ----- Transcript of session follows ----- mail11: Error from DECnet MAIL object on node "janus", during mail delivery to <JANUS::BRYANT>. Remote error code is 0x7e81d2, message is: %MAIL-E-ERRACTRNS, error activating transport NM (can't decypher error code) 550 <bryant@janus.enet.dec.com>... User unknown ----- Recipients of this delivery ----- <bryant@janus.enet.dec.com> (bounced)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Westine & Postel [Page 24]RFC 1211 Problems with Mailing Lists March 1991b. Message From Postmaster Return-path: vixie@wrl.dec.com Date: Wed, 07 Nov 90 16:24:37 PST To: westine@ISI.EDU cc: postmaster@janus.enet.dec.com, postmaster@wrl.dec.com, bryant@janus.enet.dec.com Subject: Re: <bryant@janus.enet.dec.com> From: Paul A Vixie <vixie@wrl.dec.com> Anne, This was a transient. Please let me know if any other .enet.dec.com nodes are still unreachable. Paul~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~c. Another Message to Postmaster To: Paul A Vixie <vixie@wrl.dec.com> cc: postmaster@janus.enet.dec.com, postmaster@wrl.dec.com, bryant@janus.enet.dec.com Reply-To: westine@isi.edu Subject: Re: <bryant@janus.enet.dec.com> In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 07 Nov 90 16:24:37 -0800. <9011080024.AA28353@volition.pa.dec.com> Date: Thu, 08 Nov 90 11:23:39 PST From: Ann Westine <westine@venera.isi.edu> Hi Paul, There are a few other error message that I received last week and they seem to reoccur every couple of months. Here is an example. What does this error mean? Date: Mon, 29 Oct 90 05:02:53 -0800 From: MAILER-DAEMON@decwrl.dec.com (Mail Delivery Subsystem) Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown To: <@decpa.pa.dec.com:owner-ietf@venera.isi.edu> ----- Transcript of session follows ----- mail11: Error from DECnet MAIL object on node "erlang", during mail delivery to <ERLANG::CHIU>. Remote error code is 0x7e803a, message is: %MAIL-E-LOGLINK, error creating network link to node CHIU -SYSTEM-F-NOSUCHNODE, remote node is unknownWestine & Postel [Page 25]RFC 1211 Problems with Mailing Lists March 1991 554 <erlang::chiu>... 550 Host unknown (Authoritative answer from name server) ----- Recipients of this delivery ----- <erlang::chiu> (bounced) <netrix::gillin> (sent) <erlang::rama> (sent) <netrix::gillin> (sent) <erlang::rama> (sent) ----------~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~d. Message From PostmasterDate: Thu, 08 Nov 90 17:10:02 PSTTo: westine@ISI.EDUSubject: Re: <bryant@janus.enet.dec.com>From: Paul A Vixie <vixie@wrl.dec.com>Anne,This error: ----- Transcript of session follows ----- mail11: Error from DECnet MAIL object on node "erlang", during mail delivery to <ERLANG::CHIU>. Remote error code is 0x7e803a, message is: %MAIL-E-LOGLINK, error creating network link to node CHIU -SYSTEM-F-NOSUCHNODE, remote node is unknown 554 <erlang::chiu>... 550 Host unknown (Authoritative answer from name server) ...means that the person on ERLANG:: has forwarded their mail to asystem that ERLANG does not know about. Decnet mail is not store-and-forward, so decwrl (as smtp-to-decnet gateway) sees the end-systemerror. Trying to be helpful, it sends it back to you.My advice is to delete any addresses you have trouble with, if they arein the .enet.dec.com subdomain.paul************************************************************************Westine & Postel [Page 26]RFC 1211 Problems with Mailing Lists March 1991F.10.2. No Such User Date: Wed, 10 Oct 90 18:05 CDT From: PMDF Mail Server <Postmaster@crcvms.unl.edu> Subject: Undeliverable mail To: westine@ISI.EDU The message could not be delivered to: Addressee: gale Reason: %MAIL-E-NOSUCHUSR, no such user GALE at node CRCVMS************************************************************************F.11. No Transcript Date: Wed, 8 Aug 90 13:21:03 -0700 From: MAILER-DAEMON (Mail Delivery Subsystem) Subject: Returned mail: Deferred: Host Name Lookup Failure To: owner-ietf To: owner-ietf To: westine -------------- <text deleted>************************************************************************F.12. Looping - Too Many Hops Date: Wed, 7 Nov 90 18:08:59 PDT From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@jessica.stanford.edu> Subject: Returned mail: Unable to deliver mail To:<@jessica.stanford.edu,@jessica.stanford.edu,@jessica.stanford.edu, @jessica.stanford.edu,@jessica.stanford.edu,@jessica.stanford.edu, @jessica.stanford.edu:owner-ietf@venera.isi.edu> ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 554 sendall: too many hops (17 max) Received: from Jessica.Stanford.EDU by Ahwahnee.Stanford.EDU (5.59/inc-1.0) id AA09128; Wed, 7 Nov 90 18:08:36 PDT Received: from Ahwahnee.Stanford.EDU by jessica.stanford.edu (5.59/25-eef) id AA17687; Wed, 7 Nov 90 18:08:31 PDT Received: from Jessica.Stanford.EDU by Ahwahnee.Stanford.EDU (5.59/inc-1.0)id AA09124; Wed, 7 Nov 90 18:08:28 PDT Received: from Ahwahnee.Stanford.EDU by jessica.stanford.eduWestine & Postel [Page 27]RFC 1211 Problems with Mailing Lists March 1991 (5.59/25-eef) id AA17674; Wed, 7 Nov 90 18:08:22 PDT Received: from Jessica.Stanford.EDU by Ahwahnee.Stanford.EDU (5.59/inc-1.0) id AA09120; Wed, 7 Nov 90 18:08:19 PDT Received: from Ahwahnee.Stanford.EDU by jessica.stanford.edu (5.59/25-eef) id AA17658; Wed, 7 Nov 90 18:08:13 PDT Received: from Jessica.Stanford.EDU by Ahwahnee.Stanford.EDU (5.59/inc-1.0) id AA09116; Wed, 7 Nov 90 18:08:11 PDT Received: from Ahwahnee.Stanford.EDU by jessica.stanford.edu (5.59/25-eef) id AA17645; Wed, 7 Nov 90 18:08:05 PDT Received: from Jessica.Stanford.EDU by Ahwahnee.Stanford.EDU (5.59/inc-1.0) id AA09112; Wed, 7 Nov 90 18:08:03 PDT Received: from VENERA.ISI.EDU by jessica.stanford.edu (5.59/25-eef) id AA17625; Wed, 7 Nov 90 18:07:50 PDT Received: by venera.isi.edu (5.61/5.61+local) id <AA29996>; Wed, 7 Nov 90 15:45:49 -0800 Received-Date: Wed, 7 Nov 90 15:45:45 -0800 Received: from NRI.RESTON.VA.US by venera.isi.edu (5.61/5.61+local) id <AA29992>; Wed, 7 Nov 90 15:45:45 -0800 Received: from nri by NRI.NRI.Reston.VA.US id aa13139;7 Nov 90 18:26 To: Frank Kastenholz <kasten%europa.interlan.com@relay.cs.net> Cc: ietf@venera.isi.edu Subject: Re: IETF mailing list Date: Wed, 07 Nov 90 18:26:53 -0500 From: vcerf@NRI.Reston.VA.US************************************************************************F.13. No Postmaster a. Error Message Date: Mon, 5 Nov 90 18:40:58 EST From: Mailer-Daemon@osi.ncsl.nist.gov Subject: Returned mail: User unknown To: owner-ietf@ISI.EDU ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 421 osi3: Host osi3 is down 550 Postmaster... User unknown~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Westine & Postel [Page 28]RFC 1211 Problems with Mailing Lists March 1991 b. Checking Hostname and Address westine 37% dig osi3.ncsl.nist.gov any ;; QUESTIONS: ;; osi3.ncsl.nist.gov, type = ANY, class = IN ;; ANSWERS: osi3.ncsl.nist.gov IN A 129.6.48.108 ; 86400 osi3.ncsl.nist.gov IN A 129.6.51.1 ; 86400~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ c. Checking For Users westine 49% mconnect OSI3.NCSL.NIST.GOV connecting to host OSI3.NCSL.NIST.GOV (0x6c300681), port 0x1900 connection open 220 osi3.ncsl.nist.gov sendmail 4.0/NIST(rbj/dougm) ready at Thu, 8 Nov 90 13:58:49 EST expn ietf 250-Dale Walters <walters> 250-Richard Colella <colella@emu.ncsl.nist.gov> 250 Doug Montgomery <dougm@warthog.ncsl.nist.gov>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ d. Checking For Administrators westine 44% whois osi3.ncsl.nist.gov National Bureau of Standards (ICST-OSI3) Hostname: OSI3.NCSL.NIST.GOV Nicknames: OSI3.ICST.NBS.GOV,ICST-OSI3.ARPA Address: 129.6.48.108 System: SUN-3/160 running UNIX Coordinator: Montgomery, Douglas C. (DCM5) dougm@OSI.NCSL.NIST.GOV (301) 975-3630 Record last updated on 17-May-89.
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