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still did not turn up anything. Then checking the full headerinformation of the sender's message showed that the message camethrough UUNET.UU.NET. There is a sublist on UUNET called"post-ietf@UUNET.UU.NET". By using the SMTP feature EXPN on thesublist the mailbox was found in the form "ssbell!kent". Finally, amessage was sent to the postmaster at UUNET and asked him to deletethe mailbox.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~B.1. Error Report Date: Mon, 22 Oct 90 14:05:38 -0500 From: kent@ssbell.IMD.Sterling.COM (Kent Landfield) To: ietf-request@ISI.EDU Subject: E-mail address change Hello, I am currently receiving ietf related email at kent@ssbell.IMD.Sterling.COM. I am moving to sparky.IMD.Sterling.COM as the ssbell system is going away. Could you please change my address to kent@sparky.IMD.Sterling.COM so that I can stay on the list ? Thanks.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~B.2. Message Sent to Postmaster To: postmaster@uunet.uu.net Subject: Address - <ssbell!kent> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 90 13:44:24 PDT From: Ann Westine <westine@venera.isi.edu> Hi, Please delete the mailbox ssbell!kent from the "post-ietf" list. I will add his new address "kent@sparky.IMD.Sterling.COM" directly to the ietf list. Thanks. Ann************************************************************************Westine & Postel [Page 8]RFC 1211 Problems with Mailing Lists March 1991 APPENDIX CAnother problem comes up when a sublist happens to be located in anotherprotocol world such as BITNET or UUCP and that mail is forwarded througha mail relay. Experience shows that proper implementation of the listownership concept is even less likely.SIGNET is a host in the UUCP world receiving mail forwarded throughthe mail relay THINK.COM.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~C.1. Error Report To: owner-ietf@venera.isi.edu Date: Fri, 05 Oct 90 23:45:26 -0400 From: uucp@Think.COM Subject: Warning From uucp We have been unable to contact machine 'signet' since you queued your job. mail signet!ietf-interest (Date 10/04) Attempts will continue for a few more days. Sincerely, early-bird!uucp~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~C.2. Message Sent to Postmaster To: postmaster@think.com Subject: unable to contact machine 'signet' Reply-To: westine@isi.edu Date: Mon, 08 Oct 90 09:42:54 PDT From: Ann Westine <westine@venera.isi.edu> Hi, We have a mailbox on the ietf list that gets relayed through your host THINK.COM. We will have to delete this mailbox if a connection cannot be corrected. Thanks, Ann************************************************************************Westine & Postel [Page 9]RFC 1211 Problems with Mailing Lists March 1991 APPENDIX DSometimes, the addresses reported in error can't be found on the IETFlist. In this example, "GATORCORP" is not on the IETF list. Inchecking the received lines there is a host called VITALINK.COM. Wehave an exploder on our list at VITALINK called "ietf-interest@vitalink.com". The program DIG shows that VITALINK.COM MXs toUUNET.UU.NET. Since VITALINK is not directly on the Internet the EXPNand VRFY features of SMTP don't apply, the sublist on VITALINK can't bechecked. However, there are enough clues to make an educated guess thatthe mailboxes on the host GATORCORP are on the exploder sublist atVITALINK. In this situation a message was sent to the Postmaster ofVITALINK.COM to ask him to delete the invalid addresses from hissublist.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~D.1. Error Report Return-Path: vitam6!MAILER-DAEMON@uunet.UU.NET Received-Date: Wed, 7 Nov 90 14:34:51 PST Received: from venera.isi.edu by zephyr.isi.edu (4.1/4.0.3-4) id <AA16502>; Wed, 7 Nov 90 14:34:51 PST Posted-Date: Wed, 7 Nov 90 13:54:08 -0800 Received: from UUNET.UU.NET by venera.isi.edu (5.61/5.61+local) id <AA27149>; Wed, 7 Nov 90 14:34:34 -0800 Received: from vitam6.UUCP by uunet.uu.net (5.61/1.14) with UUCP id AA12926; Wed, 7 Nov 90 17:34:28 -0500 Received: by vitam6.ENG.Vitalink.COM (5.61/1.35) id AC03235; Wed, 7 Nov 90 13:54:08 -0800 Date: Wed, 7 Nov 90 13:54:08 -0800 From: vitam6!MAILER-DAEMON@uunet.UU.NET (Mail Delivery Subsystem) Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown To: uunet!venera.isi.edu!owner-ietf@uunet.UU.NET To: uunet!venera.isi.edu!owner-ietf@uunet.UU.NET ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 andrew_greenfield.safari@gatorcorp, melinda_le_baron.safari@gatorcorp...Host unknown~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Westine & Postel [Page 10]RFC 1211 Problems with Mailing Lists March 1991D.2. Message Sent to Postmaster To: postmaster@vitalink.com Cc: westine@ISI.EDU Subject: andrew_greenfield.safari@gatorcorp, melinda_le_baron.safari@gatorcorp... Host unknown Reply-To: westine@ISI.EDU Date: Thu, 08 Nov 90 15:30:24 PST From: Ann Westine <westine@ISI.EDU> Hi, We have an exploder mailbox on the IETF list called "ietf-interest@vitalink.com". I'm not sure, but I think the following addresses may be on that list. Please look into this "host unknown" problem. If these addresses need to be deleted, please do so. Thanks, Ann************************************************************************Westine & Postel [Page 11]RFC 1211 Problems with Mailing Lists March 1991 APPENDIX EEvery host on the Internet that processes mail is required to have a"postmaster" mailbox to receive error reports and trouble inquiries.In this case, the "postmaster" mailbox was not recognized.E.1. Message Sent to IETF-Request To: (ietf-request@venera.isi.edu) From: Caralyn Brown (CBROWN@ENR) Date: 10 Jan 91 8:24 AM Subject: please remove me from this list Please remove me from this list. I'm changing companies and I'd like to keep the mailbox from getting out of hand. If it's not too much trouble, could you just send me a confirmation that I was deleted? Thanks. caralyn~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~E.2. Message Sent to Postmaster To: postmaster@list.prime.com Cc: CBROWN@enr.prime.com, ietf-request@venera.isi.edu Subject: Please delete from "ietf@list.prime.com" - Carolyn Brown Reply-To: westine@venera.isi.edu Date: Thu, 10 Jan 91 09:50:15 PST From: Ann Westine <westine@venera.isi.edu> Hi, Please delete Carolyn from your sublist. We do not have her address listed individually on the main IETF list. Thanks, Ann~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Westine & Postel [Page 12]RFC 1211 Problems with Mailing Lists March 1991E.3. Error Report From: postmaster-request@List.Prime.COM (List Service version 1.0.x463) Subject: returned mail Message-Type: Return To: <westine@ISI.EDU> Your mail addressed to "postmaster" could not be processed: There is no mailing list named "postmaster" at this site. For help, send to help@List.Prime.COM; to receive an index of available lists, send to index@List.Prime.COM; to reach a List Administrator, send to admin@List.Prime.COM.************************************************************************Westine & Postel [Page 13]RFC 1211 Problems with Mailing Lists March 1991 APPENDIX F - Examples of Error MessagesF.1. Delayed Delivery Notices From: MAILER-DAEMON@ISI.EDU (Mail Delivery Subsystem) Subject: Returned mail: Deferred: Connection timed out during user open with uiucdcsm-uiuc-dcs-net.cs.uiuc.edu Posted-Date: Fri, 4 Jan 91 12:46:51 -0800 Received: by venera.isi.edu (5.61/5.61+local) id <AA08435>; Fri, 4 Jan 91 12:46:51 -0800 To: owner-ietf@ISI.EDU ----- Transcript of session follows ----- >>> RCPT To:<laird@BBN.COM> <<< 550 (USER) Unknown user name in "laird@BBN.COM" 550 laird@BBN.COM... User unknown 451 avri@CLEARPOINT.COM... reply: read error avri@CLEARPOINT.COM... reply: read error 421 dockmaster.ncsc.mil.tcp... Deferred: Connection timed out during user open with DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL 421 va.nkw.ac.uk.tcp... Deferred: Connection timed out during user open with nsfnet-relay.ac.uk 421 nsl.dec.com.tcp... Deferred: Connection timed out during user open with jove.pa.dec.com 451 drawson@HOBBES.TYMNET.COM... timeout waiting for input drawson@HOBBES.TYMNET.COM... timeout waiting for input 451 drawson@HOBBES.TYMNET.COM... reply: read error drawson@HOBBES.TYMNET.COM... reply: read error 421 sccgate.scc.com.tcp... Deferred: Connection timed out during user open with sccgate.scc.com 421 a.isi.edu.tcp... Deferred: Connection refused by a.ISI.EDU 421 cs.ucl.ac.uk.tcp... Deferred: Connection timed out during user open with nsfnet-relay.ac.uk 421 oasys.dt.navy.mil.tcp... Deferred: Connection timed out during user open with oasys.dt.navy.mil 421 peocu1.navy.mil.tcp... Deferred: Connection timed out during user open with PEOCU1.NAVY.MIL 421 enh.nist.gov.tcp... Deferred: Connection timed out during user open with enh.nist.gov 421 mickey.imsd.contel.com.tcp... Deferred: Connection refused by MICKEY.IMSD.CONTEL.COM 421 uv4.eglin.af.mil.tcp..Deferred: Connection timed out during user open with uv6.eglin.af.mil 421 ima.isc.com.tcp... Deferred: Connection timed out during user open with ima.ima.isc.com 421 huachuca-emh8.army.mil.tcp... Deferred: Connection refused by HUACHUCA-EMH8.ARMY.MIL 421 vaxa.nerc-keyworth.ac.uk.tcp... Deferred: Connection timed outWestine & Postel [Page 14]RFC 1211 Problems with Mailing Lists March 1991 during user open with nsfnet-relay.ac.uk 421 gdr.bath.ac.uk.tcp... Deferred: Connection timed out during user open with nsfnet-relay.ac.uk 421 ccint1.rsre.mod.uk.tcp... Deferred: Connection timed out during user open with ccint1.rsre.mod.uk 550 m_ellison@TOOK.LKG.DEC.COM... Host unknown 421 hqafsc-vax.af.mil.tcp... Deferred: Connection timed out during user open with HQAFSC-VAX.AF.MIL 421 nic.nordu.net.tcp... Deferred: Connection timed out during user open with nic.nordu.net 421 aedc-vax.af.mil.tcp... Deferred: Connection timed out during user open with AEDC-VAX.AF.MIL 421 letterkenn-emh1.army.mil.tcp... Deferred: Connection timed out during user open with LETTERKENN-EMH1.ARMY.MIL 421 dumle.kommhuset.se.tcp... Deferred: Connection timed out during user open with sunic.sunet.se 421 cis.uab.edu.tcp... Deferred: Connection timed out during user open with cisa.CIS.UAB.EDU
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