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Network Working Group R. BradenRequest for Comments: 430 CCN/UCLANIC: 13299 7 February 1973 COMMENTS ON FILE TRANSFER PROTOCOL On January 23, 1973, Jon Postel (NMC), Eric Harslem (RAND), Stephen Wolfe (CCN), and Robert Braden (CCN), held and informal meeting at UCLA on FTP. This RFC generally reports the consensus of that meeting on the following issues: server-server transfers (ref. RFC 438 by Thomas and Clements); site-dependent information; and miscellaneous questions/disagreements with RFC 354, 385, and 414. There was also a discussion of the print file muddle, but that subject is addressed in a separate RFC, No. 448.Miscellaneous Comments on FTP 1. RFC 385, P. 1 (3) The question of print files will be discussed at length in another RFC. However, we did feel that the word "still" on the second line from the bottom of Page 1 is gratuitous. 2. RFC 385, P. 2 (5.) RFC 385, P. 3 (8.) RFC 414, P. 4 (11.i) To the extent that we understand these items, they seem to be unnecessary and probably undesirable concessions to particular bad implementations ("hacks"). In reference to the second item, No. 8 in RFC 385, one should note that in an asynchronous multi-process system like the ARPA Network, the phrase "immediately after" has little meaning. An implementation which depends upon "immediately after" is erroneous and should be fixed. If the protocol as defined has an intrinsic race condition, of course, the protocol should be fixed, but we don't believe such a problem exists. It would help if definitions of command-response sequences in the FTP document were tightened up considerably. As for the last item, we don't understand why Wayne Hathaway is so strongly opposed to "implied eor". 3. RFC 354, P. 13, Format Definitions for Block Mode (a) The definition of the header length presumably is meant to be the "smallest integral number of bytes whose length is greater or equal to 24 bits".Braden [Page 1]RFC 430 COMMENTS ON FILE TRANSFER PROTOCOL FEBRUARY 1973 (b) The same definitional problem occurs for restart markers. (c) Why does the restart marker have to be greater than 8 bits? (d) Note that changing the Descriptor coding to bit flags would abolish the implied eor as well as the problem of RFC 385, P. 2, #6. 4. RFC 414, P. 5 (11.iii) Note that text mode is not possible for any EBCDIC coded file. Since EBCDIC is an 8-bit code, Telnet control characters (128-255) cannot be used to distinguish either eor or eof. Stream and block modes will work, however. We have found the diagram on the last page to be useful for keeping track of the three-dimensional space of FTP parameters. 5. RFC 354, P. 17, PASS Command There is no mechanism within FTP for changing a password. A user shouldn't have to use a different protocol (e.g., log into a time sharing system) to merely change his password. 6. RFC 385, P. 3 (9.), TYPE Before BYTE This admonition (to send TYPE before BYTE) should be clearly labeled as a recommended procedure for user FTP, not a restriction on a server FTP. 7. RFC 385, P. 2-3 (7) Order of 255 Reply Some of the participants felt (strongly) that the timing problem dealt with in this item is the result of bad NCP implementations and ought not be dignified in the protocol. The issue here is the old, familiar, and touchy one of queueing RFC's or not. (My own view is that the protocol asymmetry forced by NCP's which can't queue RFC's is at least unaesthetic, and makes some elegant solutions impossible. For examples, see RFC 414 and the comments below on server-server interaction, and RFC 438 on Reconnection Protocol). 8. RFC 354, P. 15, Restart Following a RESTart command, APPend and STORe presumably have identical meanings.Braden [Page 2]RFC 430 COMMENTS ON FILE TRANSFER PROTOCOL FEBRUARY 1973B. FTP Parameter Encoding RFC 448, which discusses print files, points out that the print file attribute is logically independent of the character code attribute (ASCII vs. EBCDIC) in the type dimension; the set of allowable types in FTP is the outer product of the individual attributes. Thus FTP has (at least) four character types, summarized by the following two x two matrix: | ASCII | EBCDIC ---------------+---------+------------ Not Print File | | ---------------+---------+------------ Print File | | ---------------+---------+------------ I propose that the encoding in the TYPE command model this interdependence of the types. Instead of using a distinct single ASCII character for each type, we should use multiple ASCII characters---qualifiers, if you wish. For example: A represents ASCII code E represents EBCDIC code P represents print file I represents image L represents local byte Then the legal types according to RFC 385 would be: A AP E EP I L Note that the attributes under consideration here are type-like; they are not (logically) concerned with the structure or the transmission mode, only the internal encoding of the file. At present, this would be a trivial change. However, I foresee the file transfer protocol expanding significantly over the next several years as new types are added. Some servers will want to add server- specific type variations, and the NWG will want to add some. How about an APL character set? Or the multiple-overlay 256 character ASCII which has been proposed? Multiple qualifiers (and later perhaps more structure) in the type seems to be the cleanest escape mechanism for future growth.Braden [Page 3]RFC 430 COMMENTS ON FILE TRANSFER PROTOCOL FEBRUARY 1973C. Server-Server Interaction The FTP changes proposed by Thomas and Clements in RFC 438 are a particular solution to a general problem inherent in the current host-host protocol and higher-level protocols like FTP. There seems to be a need for a secure and simple way for two (server) processes in different hosts to exchange socket names (i.e., 40-bit numbers) so they can subsequently exchange RFC's and establish a connection. Current second-level (host-host) protocol provides exactly one (secure) mechanism by which one host can learn a socket name of a process at another host in order to establish a connection: ICP. The ICP mechanism by itself is not adequate for server-server connection in FTP. Therefore, Thomas and Clements have proposed an extension to the FTP protocol, roughly as follows: (1) A controller ("user") process at Host A uses ICP to invoke and establish Telnet control connections to two automata ("server") processes at two other hosts. An automaton process invoked in this manner then executes controller commands sent in a standard command language over the Telnet control connection. (2) The controller process commands each automaton to reserve a suitable data transfer socket and to return the socket name to the controller over the control connection. An automaton presumably negotiates with his own NCP in a host-dependent manner to obtain the socket reservation. (3) The controller now knows both data transfer socket names; he will send them in subsequent commands to the automata so each automaton will know the foreign socket name to which he is to connect. Later commands cause the automata to issue RFC's and open the data connection as needed. This appears to be useful general model for process-process interaction over the Network. Personally, I believe this symmetrical model should be the basis of all FTP the controller and one of the automata could be in the same host. Then the user/server problem (for any pair of hosts to transfer files, one must have a server FTP and the other a user FTP) would vanish. At least one host somewhere in the Network would need a controller process; all other hosts would need only an automaton process. Perhaps at a future time the NWG should consider whether a socket- reservation-and-passing mechanism ought to be incorporated into second-level protocol rather than duplicated in a number of third- level protocols. We should note that this model provides secureBraden [Page 4]
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