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基于图象的信息隐藏的C源码

    [Flink23] - All readers of scrytch IRC logs are being challenged!
    [scotto] - oh sure, it's all 'useful' and such, but.
    [scotto] - that is all.
    [dbauler] - screw iadics!
    [Flink23] - Can I trouble you for a definition of same, sirs?
    [dbauler] - does that come from anything? 
    [scotto] - it always does, db
    [scotto] - iadics is viewing human relationships via geometric patterns: dyads, triads, tetrads, etc
    [scotto] - analyzing how these relationsihps intertwine
    [scotto] - it's standard sociology, also wrote up by john lilly for the head crowd
    [scotto] - brb
    [Flink23] - Sounds like a bridge between group & individual psychology.
    [scotto] - probably is
    [dbauler] - i want it duly noted that i have a plan!
    [scotto] - for what?
    [dbauler] - in general! a scrytch/interlace plan!
    [scotto] - let's hear it
    [dbauler] - no no no! all i mean is that i have a plan. and will say no more than that.
    [dbauler] - (laughs)
    [scotto] - feh, i've got one of *those* plans
    [dbauler] - implications in the last irc log that i didn't have a plan are greatly exaggerated and wrong.
    [dbauler] - and wrt foreshadowing or fucking around, it's both, and it's not knowing which is which that makes things interesting. and that's all i'll say on that.
    [Flink23] - That's what I was trying to get at, Db...you put it better than I did that time, though.
    [scotto] - "foreshadowing - the key to quality literature!"
    [dbauler] - always leave yourself an out, is the key for me and interlace, which is why the dead thing failed, because there was no out.
    [scotto] - what failed about it?
    [dbauler] - we're now forced (in heath's opinion) to make that aspect of interlace a dream, which is the last out, and one i'm uncomfortable with.
    [scotto] - see, i don't even remotely agree with heath there.  courtney and cohen are dead, dead, dead, and they are walking around the island.
    [Flink23] - None of interlace was a dream in _my_ handlings of it.
    [dbauler] - right. that was the whole premise. and there's no reason to change that.
    [scotto] - maybe his particular angle was a dream, and that's fine, but even dreams are real in this setting
    [scotto] - dreams are eigenstates (there's that word!)
    [dbauler] - it was the use of "true names" (a concept i still don't get, really) which made things odd, but...
    [scotto] - i get True Names, or rather, i'm fucking around with it in a big way by playing with aurora; it's interesting
    [Flink23] - None at all.  1 thing I try to remember is that Heath'll theorize at the drop of a hat...usually interesting, but not always correct.  ;)
    [scotto] - hehe
    [dbauler] - i'm torn. i mean, i've made appeals to have MAYA stuff removed from the scrytch files (and failed) because certain people think it means something it doesn't. and i think that's how heath took his death, and other such things. but i don't think..
    [dbauler] - ah hell, i'm not sure what i think.
    [Flink23] - I think the True Name idea was great: I'm working to integrate a view of that w/ a radical reinterpretation of a lot of interlace...
    [Flink23] - Nobody's gonna let you pull it out, Db...no matter what yr intentions were, it's in a lot of heads, you know?  
    [dbauler] - yeah, i know.
    [dbauler] - and even though it has nothing to do with nothing, people won't let it go.
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    [Flink23] - I've had to handle some of my own historification (I hate that word) to make damn sure my repudiation of early artistic tangents is noted...
    [dbauler] - it's frustrating.
    [Herben] - Llo all!
    [scotto] - herben
    [Herben] - This has got to be one of the most unfriendly servers I've ever been on. :O(
    [Herben] - Llo scotto
    [scotto] - herben, this has been a very tightknit community until today when a formerly private server got linked to a public server.  we're adjusting
    [scotto] - btw, every thing you say on this channel gets logged for posting to a public mailing list, fyi
    [Flink23] - Yeah, that's a risk you run, w/ the voice you use...I dunno.
    [Herben] - Yes, I know what you mean.
    [Herben] - A mailing list?  Why?
    [scotto] - this particular channel is associated with an ongoing aesthetic project known as "scrytch"
    [Flink23] - This channel is for discussion/ranting/whatever related to that mailing list.
    [scotto] - everything said here is part of the ongoing context we're building
    [Herben] - What is scrytch?
    [Flink23] - An ongoing aesthetic project, of course.  ;)
    [scotto] - scrytch is a virus
    [scotto] - a form of writing that takes over your life
    [Herben] - Hmmmm....
    [Herben] - Is that good or bad?
    [scotto] - depends on who you ask
    [Flink23] - Yes.
    [Herben] - :O)
    [Flink23] - & when you ask.
    [Herben] - Could you explain it a little better, please?
    [scotto] - yeah
    [scotto] - scrytch is a form of writing which is first of all anti-copyright, meaning,
    [scotto] - anything you contribute to scrytch is grist for some other scrytcher's mill
    [scotto] - that's first.
* dbauler kicks back and watches scotto give the intro rap.
    [scotto] - so, at this point, there are archives of scrytch that go back years, and themes and resonances have emerged over time.
    [scotto] - it started as a writing exercise:
    [scotto] - writing that needs not conform to any kind of stricture whatsoever, not plot, not form, not nothing, just whatever comes out
    [scotto] - whatever "scratches the itch"
    [scotto] - the sound of the pencil against the page
    [scotto] - etc.
    [scotto] - lots of dross over time, also lots of remarkable experimental stuff
    [scotto] - all part of a vast tapestry, interconnected because ppl keep recycling other ppl's writing as they see fit.
    [scotto] - at this point in time, scrytch now includes audio and graphics as well, it includes this irc channel, and it includes a large ongoing story being evolved out of the stew by a half dozen or more contributors
    [scotto] - it's a virus, and it's mutating
    [scotto] - does that help, herben?
    [Herben] - Yes, lot's!
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    [Herben] - I have to go now, but I want to come back in the near future.  This sounds like a very interresting form of writing. One I'd be more comfortable with myself.
    [scotto] - as for this being an unfriendly server - 9/10 of the people on this server have fleshmet or have some kind of flesh connection to someone involved.  it's very tight
    [scotto] - groovy, herben
    [scotto] - see ya round.
    [Herben] - Bye!
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    [Flink23] - Well.  Nice scrytch description, I must say.
    [scotto] - eeesh.  
* scotto bludgeons scrybe with a cement trout
    [scotto] - i didn't expect 'word of mouth' to involve *my* mouth, dammit.
    [Flink23] - You guys _are_ unfriendly.
    [scotto] - we're a bunch of fuckers when you get right down to it.
    [Flink23] - What?  I'm confused...
* scotto growls for no apparent reason
    [scotto] - just kidding. 
    [scotto] - my apartment is infested with ants, it's made me grumpy.  they keep climbing up the power cord of my laptop onto the table, and i keep having to flick them off
    [Flink23] - Sucks!  What was yr word of mouth comment abt?
    [scotto] - oh, the whole "should we advertise publicly or only let it spread word of mouth?" debate
    [scotto] - "As seen in previous scrytch logs!"
    [Flink23] - Ah...well, I'm all for offputting abuse & utter concealment, as seen in previous...etc.
    [Flink23] - Must arise early tomorrow, so I'll take my leave.  Don't take any of that scrybe guy's guff, Scotto...
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    [dbauler] - you ever just feel like crying for no reason?
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    [heath] - had a dream last night.  it was a pretty fuckin cool dream, actually.  well, the last part of it was.
    [heath] - during the first part, somehow i got a bunch of secret astronauts who ran a store as a cover to let me go on one of their trips to Mars if i'd promise in return to take over care & feeding of the Country Music Section...  :(  {:)
    [heath] - but then it got cool; wandering around the fixional Minneapolis-esque town, i ran intoa Manga shop, and one of the Manga i found ended up influencing the arc-formerly-known-as-'aji.  the content of the exquisitely drawn b&w manga was a precise
    [heath] - cross between Ghost in the Shell [2-parts], Aeon Flux [1-part], and the FPS game Marathon, who nobody here but dbauler's probably played in any form.  the part that reminded me of Marathon was the way the story itself was told - uplinks at 
    [heath] - infrequent intervals during which exposition was delivered, separated by long wordless empty sneaking-around-and sniping things phases.\ [much like the orig. liquid tv Aeon Flux].
    [heath] - well, as i was waking up, what i gleaned from this dream was that the female spy in the ancient-looking futureistic setting was a member of an Order of Illuminated Assassins; not in the sense that they're all illuminated, but in the sense that no
    [heath] - one of the Assassins are stupid or ignorant of the overarching ideals of Order.  these ideals are as follows: they seek to "disappear" physical manifestations of scientific knowledge.
    [heath] - that was about all i got from my dream before i awoke, but i trnaslated it into the arc thus..:  there is a sect of shamen who are also cartographers in various senses [ie, also alchemists, writers; they map mental spaces as well as
    [heath] - physical spaces].  they have a secret tongue and are also in charge of describing the relations between various branches of the common tongue, so that precise translation from one language / dialect to another is possible.
    [heath] - they chart these correspondences and are keepers of them.  this Order of Assasins ups their ante a bit; they now have an enemy.  the Assassins actually only kill when something -- like, say, a person -- gets in the way of their attempt to 
    [heath] - stealthfully steal away the tomes and charts of knowledge from their original resting places.  it is said by the catDzanu [the mapper-shamen] that these Assassins destroy all of the work they steal, but this is probably untrue; each of the 
    [heath] - Assassins must *know* the languages spoken all around their world so they can travel easily between regions; they must know the lay of the land for the same reasons; and none of them are dumb.  so it's likely that the materials thus spirited away
    [heath] - end up in some or several repositories somewhere.  perhaps only the most exemplary versions of certain concepts and charts are kept and the rest destroyed, those safeguarded versions then recopied and used to teach the Assassins.  their motives 
    [heath] - in this behavior are unclear [but i have some thoughts which i'm going to let simmer, the "vision" being so fresh].  the effect this has, though, on the advancment of culture is interesting.
    [heath] - ...
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    [cris] - heath - wanna bounce a timeline off you:
    [cris] - louise escapes bethany medical,meets up w/harvey
    [cris] - er i mean rraby
    [cris] - they do the ext think into heath's dreams, this is where she is killed by the she who is also in heath's dreams
    [cris] - at this point she iswandering around in ext and doesnt know it,, living a life she does not know is not real, she cannot put togewther the lack of context or history into anything meaningful
    [cris] - being predisposed to suicdide anyway (have to get this in there b/c thats how she was written in the beginning of interlace)
    [cris] - she tries to do herself in, hanging i spose, and fucks up & dies by accident (kinda like flying by distracting yourself before you hit the ground)
    [cris] - then she is stuck back in ext, even more vivid .. this is where she starts to wander the desert, the ols She thing from this summer
    [cris] - and that takes her to the caravan where she meets UP WITH sTELLA/hARVEY
    [cris] - capslock
    [cris] - and at the end of that series of pieces she motorcanoes into the aurora borealis and "dies"
    [cris] - and then thats where we find her in the nautilus, coming awake and aware of courtney and cohen heading to the island
    [cris] - it's rough but ill flesh it out better
    [cris] - l8tr]
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    [heath] - the piece of software that wanted to modify my system has an interesting concept behind it..
    [heath] - but the manual is written in *very* broken english and i don't know if i trust it..
    [heath] - oops
* heath searches far and wide for summary pages ont he bantu languages
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    [scotto] - yara
    [yara] - hey
    [yara] - i think with my next paycheck, i'm going to have to break downa nd buy some new cds
    [scotto] - sounds dangerous
    [yara] - i hate buying cds cuz i know what the difference is between the cost to produce and the $15.99 they want me to pay
    [heath] - do what i do and shop used.
    [heath] - my entire cd collection [well, 90% of it] is built on that foundation.  the other 10% are purchased new..
    [heath] - special cases & all.
    [yara] - i think i'd have a hard time finding the stuff i want used
    [yara] - it's tough enough finding it new
    [heath] - if you're that picky, yeah..  but if you found a really good used store, it can happen.  plus you get to listen to stuff too.  but i can see the concern.  aren't there online web cd places that sell at big discounts?
    [heath] - [ah, btw, abby we shld discuss whether to keep you going wrt the irc work or have me take it if the mail's now just to be sent to xero; but we can do that later, since i haveta go to lunch..  :(
    [scotto] - hm
    [scotto] - i kinda like having it go thru the list on regular intervals
    [scotto] - reminds me to read the damn things
    [yara] - 6 of 1, half dozen to me
    [pfly] - simearth arrived
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    [yara] - heath, was there a reason you wanted to change how the logs are handled?
    [scotto] - flink mentioned something about the logs being a problem for his mailer, i believe
    [cris] - i think it was something about someone having trouble
    [yara] - because they're so big
    [cris] - what scotto said
    [yara] - ?
    [scotto] - i don't remember
*** Signoff: cris (shutdown & give up for adaption)
*** Signoff: pfly (suddenly sentient)
    [heath] - yeah - no, it's still fine with me if you keep 'em, i'd just email em to both you and xero at day's end.  the question is one of their size; so for a couple days, i'm going to try sending them half as large, but there'll be more of em.
    [heath] - so we'll keep going as we have been for a few days, me sending them in smaller chunks now and you putting them up as they are.  i'll just number them "irc work 035a" and "irc work 035b" for now, like that..
    [yara] - um. no. number them irc work 035.1
    [yara] - 035.2
    [yara] - etc
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    [yara] - ok?
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    [heath] - ok, i can do that.  if tjust urls are sent thru the list, i may not even have to break them up this way.
    [heath] - by the way: what would you think of placing the text in some light color on a black background ont he pages?  i'm wondering if it'd be easier to read that way..  [ie, i think it wld for me, frinstance]
    [atman] - I always navigate the web with text color set to amber and background color set to black..so I probably wouldn't notice.
    [atman] - but it's a good idea anyway...the reason I do it is it's markedly less eye strain.
    [yara] - ummm... sure
    [yara] - wait. you don't mean change them *all*--like ALL the interlace stuff, do you?
    [heath] - no no, just the irc logs.
    [yara] - phew
    [heath] - :)
    [heath] - "And While You're At It..."
    [yara] - yeah yeah
* yara goes to find a good color
    [scotto] - puce
    [atman] - fuschia.