4.txt

基于图象的信息隐藏的C源码

    [cris] - d
    [cris] - or at least the vague tickly idea of the muse i have is
    [pfly] - me too
    [cris] - is why the muse associates so closely with ange;s
    [heath] - oh; does anyone have any comments on the categories provisionally listed at 
    [heath] - http://www.neuron.net/~rez/  ?
    [cris] - i recall thinking they seemes to cover it at this juncture
    [pfly] - it looked good to me... i was working on a scrytch picture for possible use as an imagemap of links...
    [pfly] - hey heath
    [cris] - when scotto approached me to write something about antares doin' aeute i have to admit i was a little grumply
    [pfly] - i like the idea of planning and making a sctychweb that is planned organic... easy to add to, and seemingly working even if "not done", etc
    [pfly] - aeute?
    [cris] - but i guess its good to be understood enought to be critiqued ..
    [cris] - i like that too, the evolving scrytchweb
    [pfly] - i think it would be cool to have links running off into endless shuffle links and stuff
    [cris] - aeute - the false sentiment or false memory angel
    [pfly] - as we find connections, we can link them up into an ever more complex web
    [heath] - [the End God of False Memories]
    [cris] - yea
    [pfly] - but also have solid texts like psychdegraddable and interlace
    [cris] - ooo, kinda like the scrytch trading card game
    [heath] - paul - i agree.  that's why i want to figure out a generic classification structure..  
    [pfly] - i remember liking your site...  
    [heath] - yup, those would go into a section devoted to "distillate corpii" or somesuch..
    [heath] - i do too, cris, i should make it a Section.  :)
    [pfly] - my idea was to someday make a funky picture with links embedded in it that lead off into a chaotic network of bits
    [cris] - ::)
    [cris] - i like hat
    [cris] - that
    [pfly] - i have some qabalah imagemaps i made a while back that might be fun
    [cris] - generic classification structure?
    [heath] - yara - did you say that irc work 35 & 36 were up?
    [heath] - cris - no, but rather, one honed to the needs of scrytch; a concept in Archival..:
    [heath] - "Provenance" with a soft e..
    [heath] - it means, "analyze the collection to be organized, and let *it* show you the best way to organize it.
    [heath] - start grouping like with like, until you have enough rough categories that structure emerges.  a weird but very cool idea.
    [cris] - heath, you are aware that  ..
    [pfly] - it would be nice if all of us could access the site and edit it ourselves?  you think?
    [heath] - it is used by archivists who are given very large and specialized collections, like say
    [cris] - argh!  i just got called into a one on one meeting w/supervisor re: upcoming projects
    [heath] - the materials froma famous family, to organize for presentation or access.
    [cris] - i'll read the log for this, so ... seeya in text  :)
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    [heath] - well paul, a part of me really wants to be able to devote autonym.com to this...
    [heath] - thus each person cld have their own scrytch-related accnt at autonym.com..
    [heath] - [that was the whole idea, basically, re Provenance.  the details come in ther execution.
    [pfly] - but if we dont have access to each other's files, we cant embed links in them
    [pfly] - oh wait... i misunderstood
    [pfly] - gotchya
    [pfly] - page 200
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    [heath] - hell, we could all just have complete permissions given to one-another on the entire archive,
    [heath] - and it cld become a massive exercise in Trust.  :)
    [pfly] - i think that would be wonderful
    [pfly] - if we continue to Keep In Touch on irc, i think we'll be aware of conflicts, etc
    [heath] - well, we have plenty of time to work out the site and details before Amir returns..
    [pfly] - yeah... i'm going to continue to work on my graphics
    [heath] - and, it cld be that we want to secure scrytch.org or something, though i'm willing to dedicate autonym.com if it's desired and it's already there..
    [heath] - in theory "autonym" cld be an impratur for publishing ventures..
    [heath] - profits of said [ha ha] going intoa common scrytch slush-fund.  :)
    [pfly] - impratur?
    [heath] - [imprint / name]
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    [heath] - [umbrella signifier]
    [heath] - [cover story / foil] ;)
    [pfly] - well, www.scrytch.org would be pretty cool, i gotta say
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    [pfly] - i had hoped i would be able to print out a draft of Prologue today for proofing, but alas, i'm only at int123
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    [pfly] - hey cris
    [cris] - hey pfly
    [cris] - hmph, i finally got verbal achnowledgement that i've been almost consistently late for 4 months now
    [cris] - it was a sorta pre-warning warning
    [pfly] - heh, what do they think of it?
    [pfly] - oh
    [heath] - yup, it wld.  we cld always split the cost etc.  my only concern is the organizational overhead of getting that set up - 
    [cris] - i said i'm writing a novel
    [heath] - it was a nightmare for autonym.com and that was just me; gii.net was torturous and drawn out
    [cris] - is scrytch still available?
    [cris] - why all the trouble with autonym?
    [pfly] - aren't .org easier?
    [heath] - one'd assume so cris..  one cld check at internic
    [cris] - i think neuron/~scrytch wouldnt be so horrible either
    [heath] - just the hassle with registering a domain name period.  getting the 3 necessary contacts, preparing the billing info..
    [heath] - but i'm notoriously bad at that stuff.  :)
    [joshua] - butrimple
    [heath] - though again cris that's something that amir has to set up.  
    [joshua] - mookie dont fish fry
    [heath] - basically, i'm thinking of scrytch/ [which i'll change this all to soon]
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] - test
    [cris] - argh had phone call ..
    [cris] - there's also daft/scrytch
    [cris] - though i think space is more an issue on daft
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    [cris] - we might wanna help spring for a hard drive for neuron  ;)
    [pfly] - [another big meta talk around int110 - 130 or so]
    [heath] - basically i'm thinking of /~rez/scrytch/ as a receptacle for the stuff we put together
    [pfly] - i think neuron still has tons of space, no?
    [heath] - while we decide whether to get the domain name; putting it at root on www.autonym.com
    [heath] - remains as an option, though the domain name'd be A Perfect World.
    [pfly] - although getting amir a hard drive would be nice
    [cris] - im not particularly concerbed over having a special domain .. doesnt ring as a neccessity in my aesthetic universe
    [cris] - though it doesnt sound bad either
    [heath] - [i also still have autonym paid for for another year yet, which i'd like to take advantage of at some level.]
    [cris] - ah ok
    [heath] - domain names are $200 for the first year and $100/year thereafter i believe
    [heath] - er $200 first *2* years
    [cris] - see, im kinda into bauhaus, gong back to numeric addresses wouldnt bother me a while lot  ;)
    [heath] - to be honest, the possibilities of scrytch.org fascinate...  it cld ostensibly be a non-profit org which "promoted experimental media and design."  }:)
    [cris] - er whole
    [heath] - naturally, the heart of the matter wld only be revealed to those willing to dig...  :)
    [cris] - those willing to risk the context
    [cris] - of you feel a strong current trying to pull you under, just go with it and when it settles down swim parallel to shore until you can come back in
    [cris] - er if
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    [pfly] - ooh a scrytch post from scotto
    [yara] - uh oh
    [cris] - run duck cover flee flee flee!
* yara got some actual work post-gym
    [heath] - hey yara did you say irc work 035 and 036 were up now..?
    [cris] - gotta work, l8tr
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    [yara] - no. they're not
    [yara] - i haven't touched them yet
    [pfly] - ohh, wait, are scotto/aurora/slade and co going to UIAT?  not infinitek
    [yara] - and i don't know when i'nm going to get to them
    [heath] - hm; you want me to get them in a form identical to the first bunch and make it so you cld link 
    [heath] - into them from 034..?  it cld be done..  i know you're swamped and i keep offering..  {:)
    [yara] - why do you keep switching around the formats then?
    [yara] - i think the big obstacle to my doing them, other than a lack of time, is i never knpow when you're going to change your mind again
    [heath] - i' don't.  i'm trying to decide ont he best one and settle on it.
    [heath] - now, you know as well as i that you can take the rawtext and do whatever the heck you want to it.
* yara is cranky and doesn't mean to take it out on you
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    [heath] - so int hat sense it doesn't *matter* what i do with the rawtxt vrsns.
    [heath] - but, i'm still trying to come up with a way to satisfy everybody.
    [heath] - and, given the hassle, i simply offer to take that off your hands.
    [pfly] - ok seeya
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    [yara] - well, it wasn't a hassle before
    [heath] - *with* the full offer that you could have them *back* if you wanted evenm when i'd settled and begun executing in a way that makes everyone happy.
    [heath] - i mean, in other words, i'm not trying to make you cranky, i'm trying to *UN*cranky you!
    [heath] - yara - it had become so for me.
    [yara] - you're not doing a very good job
    [heath] - ie, i was sitting on the cusp of:
    [yara] - and i think the only thing that fixes the cranky business is kisses & chocolate
    [heath] - 3 mailings a night; one to you in one format, one to xero in another [to satisfy me]
    [heath] - and a third post of a URL only to the list.
    [heath] - if i had kept doing what i had ben doing in sending just to the list the whole log,
    [heath] - i would have been unhappy in the following ways:
    [yara] - ideally what would you like me to do?
    [heath] - 1 - i already felt they were too *short* even before Flink felt them too long;
    [heath] - 2 - i had become dissatisfied with the longevity of the material given the intrusion of hard line breaks.
* heath kisses you and gives you chocolate
    [yara] - much better. thank you :)
    [yara] - so--in an ideal sense, how would you like me to respond?
    [heath] - [work emergency hold on]
    [heath] - ok.  my instinct is: let me get an area set up on neuronscrytch for logs,
    [heath] - format a page to be just like the ones you set up, and starting with 035,
    [heath] - have you link from 034 to there in "Next" .  that way i can deal with both adding the
    [heath] - html version and also archiving the rawtxt version each couple nights.
    [heath] - it'll lower my stress level because i won't have to do massive version control with other people, and it shld lower ytours 
    [heath] - because you won't have to worry about them [or about ppl bugging you abt them].
    [heath] - once we get the big site going, we can take a look and see if the system's working and how
    [heath] - we want to change it.  does that sould good [enough] to you?
    [yara] - sure
    [heath] - :)
* heath steals back one of the "turtles" and munches happily..
    [heath] - lord have mercy but it's time for me to go home..
    [heath] - gnight..
    [yara] - night hon
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    [scrybe] - eesh, what a maroon..
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    [dbauler] - yeeeesh.
    [yara] - so dbauler--plans are on for tomorrow night! ben & sally are gonna help... muiahahaha
    [dbauler] - eeeeeexcellent! all is fitting into the Plan!
    [yara] - unfortunately, we'll have to play early tho... ben has to be up and at work at 8am the next day
* yara is trying to squeeze in some writing time today
    [dbauler] - i may not be on until around nine yr time; i'll have to hop on from home and access is tricky before that.
    [yara] - no worries
    [yara] - my big question today is: who is the antagonist against our attack on Infinitek? who may try to stop us?
    [yara] - and if no one, should we bring in a villain?
    [dbauler] - jer.
    [yara] - there's an idea
    [dbauler] - jer now owns infinitek and doesn't want his place trashed.
    [yara] - rad. ok
    [dbauler] - though i don't know if he's gonna do any writing soon, so we might just hafta add in things.
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    [dbauler] - bang-up job on this last post, scotto.
    [scotto] - hey thanks
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    [pfly] - heya
    [scotto] - pfly
    [pfly] - just abt to read yer new post
    [scotto] - there may some discontinuity with what you just wrote
    [pfly] - i think so... i skimmed the first part at work :)
    [scotto] - but only, as they say, mild discontinuity
    [pfly] - so i was making up ways to deal with that on the way home
    [scotto] - i wrote my thing last night but my mailer couldn't send it til this a.m.
    [scotto] - i think i'm going to start using the term 'mild discontinuity' more often
    [pfly] - btw,
    [pfly] - who exactly is the tetrad?  scotto, aurora...?
    [scotto] - scotto, aurora, walther, antares
    [pfly] - ok right
    [pfly] - there's an antares with abby & db too , heh
    [scotto] - yeah, that antares is actually the muse in disguise
    [pfly] - aahh, really?
    [scotto] - indeed
    [pfly] - my new characters cant get it together because i dont really know whats going on
    [scotto] - well it adds to the comedy certainly :)
    [pfly] - oh yeah, it definitely something to play
    [pfly] - hey, why are y'all going to UAIT again?
    [scotto] - we needed to steal a supply of drugs from police chief william slade
    [scotto] - see flink's last post
    [pfly] - oh wait, drugs right
    [scotto] - hehe
    [pfly] - oh slade has a stash?
    [scotto] - had one
    [pfly] - ph wait...  i'm asking things as i read
    [pfly] - ok, another -- that room where mrs wormwood was shot -- where *is* that room anyway?  uait?
    [scotto] - yes
    [pfly] - got it, ok
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    [pfly] - are you still having fun with alla this?
    [cris] - me?
    [pfly] - heya criscris
    [cris] - heyhey
    [scotto] - i'm not sure "fun" is the right word :)
    [pfly] - no, scotto
    [cris] - what other reasons would there be to do alla this?
    [scotto] - i'm kidding, cris
    [pfly] - is the UAIT building in SOPOP?
    [scotto] - yes
    [scotto] - at the heart of downtown SOPOP
* cris sets about ansering own question ..
    [pfly] - ok, i thought so, making sure
    [pfly] - (trying to locate freak and slut!)
    [cris] - ahok
    [cris] - i think i might be learning how to write finally
    [cris] - i wont know till i turn it on other projects
    [cris] - which i cant get the motivation to work on
    [pfly] - why not?
    [cris] - id rather try and entertain yalls
    [cris] - er yall
    [scotto] - i've definitely realized that scrytch has taken over a substantial portion of creative energy that might be directed elsewhere..
    [pfly] - hmmm
    [scotto] - although at this point, i must now go do some vocal recording
    [pfly] - hey cool, new song, or?
    [scotto] - new song.  
    [pfly] - great!
    [scotto] - we haven't been able to burn a copy yet of a good mix of the last one, because the cd burner's been holed up with one of the other programmers