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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Aikido&nbsp;is&nbsp;more&nbsp;settling&nbsp;complete&nbsp;technique.&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ChangeLog:&nbsp;Do&nbsp;you&nbsp;think&nbsp;learning&nbsp;Japanese&nbsp;culture&nbsp;and&nbsp;Aikido&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;influenced&nbsp;you&nbsp;especially&nbsp;as&nbsp;a&nbsp;hacker&nbsp;and&nbsp;as&nbsp;a&nbsp;representative&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;OSI?&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ESR:&nbsp;I&nbsp;don't&nbsp;know&nbsp;how&nbsp;it&nbsp;has&nbsp;influenced&nbsp;me&nbsp;but&nbsp;I&nbsp;can&nbsp;tell&nbsp;you&nbsp;that&nbsp;the&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;interest&nbsp;in&nbsp;martial&nbsp;arts&nbsp;is&nbsp;very&nbsp;common&nbsp;among&nbsp;the&nbsp;American&nbsp;hackers.&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I'm&nbsp;not&nbsp;exceptional&nbsp;on&nbsp;that&nbsp;respect.&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;It's&nbsp;no&nbsp;longer&nbsp;rare&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;United&nbsp;States,&nbsp;but&nbsp;it's&nbsp;more&nbsp;common&nbsp;among&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the&nbsp;hackers&nbsp;than&nbsp;elsewhere.&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;In&nbsp;fact,&nbsp;that&nbsp;was&nbsp;already&nbsp;clear&nbsp;back&nbsp;in&nbsp;1991,&nbsp;when&nbsp;I&nbsp;did&nbsp;the&nbsp;New&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Hacker's&nbsp;Dictionary,&nbsp;one&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;things&nbsp;I&nbsp;described&nbsp;was&nbsp;it&nbsp;has&nbsp;been&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;typical&nbsp;of&nbsp;hackers&nbsp;back&nbsp;in&nbsp;1991&nbsp;that&nbsp;they&nbsp;are&nbsp;often&nbsp;interested&nbsp;in&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;martial&nbsp;arts,&nbsp;and&nbsp;I&nbsp;think&nbsp;that's&nbsp;become&nbsp;more&nbsp;true&nbsp;in&nbsp;8&nbsp;years&nbsp;since.&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ChangeLog:&nbsp;Larry&nbsp;Wall,&nbsp;the&nbsp;creator&nbsp;of&nbsp;Perl,&nbsp;mentioned&nbsp;about&nbsp;&quot;Aikido&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;for&nbsp;programmers&quot;&nbsp;when&nbsp;he&nbsp;came&nbsp;to&nbsp;Japan&nbsp;last&nbsp;November.&nbsp;He&nbsp;said&nbsp;Aikido&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;has&nbsp;various&nbsp;&quot;forms&quot;&nbsp;and&nbsp;you&nbsp;fight&nbsp;against&nbsp;your&nbsp;enemies&nbsp;using&nbsp;the&nbsp;best&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;set&nbsp;of&nbsp;forms,&nbsp;and&nbsp;that&nbsp;has&nbsp;something&nbsp;in&nbsp;common&nbsp;with&nbsp;programming.&nbsp;What&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;do&nbsp;you&nbsp;think&nbsp;about&nbsp;this&nbsp;point?&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ESR:&nbsp;Larry&nbsp;is&nbsp;a&nbsp;good&nbsp;friend&nbsp;of&nbsp;mine,&nbsp;by&nbsp;the&nbsp;way.&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I&nbsp;think&nbsp;what's&nbsp;similar&nbsp;is&nbsp;that&nbsp;both,&nbsp;martial&nbsp;arts&nbsp;and&nbsp;programming,&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;require&nbsp;a&nbsp;certain&nbsp;kind&nbsp;of&nbsp;discipline&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;mind&nbsp;that&nbsp;most&nbsp;other&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;skills&nbsp;do&nbsp;not&nbsp;require.&nbsp;So&nbsp;there's&nbsp;a&nbsp;similarity&nbsp;in&nbsp;which&nbsp;you&nbsp;have&nbsp;to&nbsp;do&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;up&nbsp;here&nbsp;(pointing&nbsp;to&nbsp;his&nbsp;head).&nbsp;I&nbsp;think&nbsp;that&nbsp;appeals&nbsp;to&nbsp;many&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;programmers.&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ChangeLog:&nbsp;You&nbsp;have&nbsp;been&nbsp;doing&nbsp;Karate&nbsp;for&nbsp;9&nbsp;years,&nbsp;so&nbsp;you&nbsp;must&nbsp;be&nbsp;the&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;strongest&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;hacker&nbsp;community?&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ESR:&nbsp;I&nbsp;don't&nbsp;think&nbsp;so.&nbsp;Probably&nbsp;not.&nbsp;(laugh)&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ChangeLog:&nbsp;Which&nbsp;is&nbsp;stronger,&nbsp;Tove&nbsp;or&nbsp;you?&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ESR:&nbsp;(laughing,&nbsp;clapping&nbsp;his&nbsp;hands)&nbsp;Oh,&nbsp;probably&nbsp;she&nbsp;is.&nbsp;Probably&nbsp;she&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;is.&nbsp;I&nbsp;haven't&nbsp;been&nbsp;champion&nbsp;of&nbsp;my&nbsp;country&nbsp;six&nbsp;times&nbsp;as&nbsp;she&nbsp;has.&nbsp;So&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;she's&nbsp;probably&nbsp;much&nbsp;better&nbsp;than&nbsp;I&nbsp;am.&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ChangeLog:&nbsp;We&nbsp;know&nbsp;your&nbsp;Karate&nbsp;and&nbsp;arms&nbsp;(guns)&nbsp;are&nbsp;perfect,&nbsp;but&nbsp;what&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;happens&nbsp;if&nbsp;you&nbsp;are&nbsp;hit&nbsp;by&nbsp;a&nbsp;bus?&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ESR:&nbsp;Then&nbsp;I&nbsp;die.&nbsp;Karma.&nbsp;(laughs)&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;(&nbsp;haha~~~,&nbsp;我也笑倒了的说....)&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ChangeLog:&nbsp;I&nbsp;mean,&nbsp;it&nbsp;is&nbsp;one&nbsp;of&nbsp;Linus&nbsp;FAQ,&nbsp;which&nbsp;goes&nbsp;like&nbsp;&quot;what&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;happens&nbsp;to&nbsp;Linux&nbsp;if&nbsp;you&nbsp;are&nbsp;hit&nbsp;by&nbsp;a&nbsp;bus&quot;?&nbsp;What&nbsp;happens&nbsp;in&nbsp;your&nbsp;case?&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ESR:&nbsp;Oh&nbsp;yes,&nbsp;there's&nbsp;another&nbsp;way&nbsp;to&nbsp;answer&nbsp;the&nbsp;question.&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Part&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;reasons&nbsp;that&nbsp;I&nbsp;founded&nbsp;the&nbsp;Open&nbsp;Source&nbsp;Initiative&nbsp;was&nbsp;to&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;try&nbsp;and&nbsp;take&nbsp;what&nbsp;I&nbsp;had&nbsp;learned&nbsp;and&nbsp;teach&nbsp;it&nbsp;to&nbsp;other&nbsp;people,&nbsp;so&nbsp;that&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;if&nbsp;I&nbsp;was&nbsp;got&nbsp;hit&nbsp;by&nbsp;a&nbsp;truck,&nbsp;the&nbsp;work&nbsp;could&nbsp;carried&nbsp;on&nbsp;by&nbsp;the&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;organization.&nbsp;The&nbsp;OSI&nbsp;exists,&nbsp;partly,&nbsp;so&nbsp;that&nbsp;I&nbsp;won't&nbsp;be&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;indispensable.&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ChangeLog:&nbsp;Do&nbsp;you&nbsp;share&nbsp;the&nbsp;idea&nbsp;with&nbsp;Richard&nbsp;Stallman&nbsp;that&nbsp;selling&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;binary&nbsp;software&nbsp;is&nbsp;a&nbsp;problem&nbsp;for&nbsp;the&nbsp;community?&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ESR:&nbsp;No.&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I&nbsp;think&nbsp;there&nbsp;are&nbsp;some&nbsp;circumstances&nbsp;under&nbsp;which&nbsp;it&nbsp;makes&nbsp;economic&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;sense&nbsp;for&nbsp;a&nbsp;software&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;open,&nbsp;and&nbsp;there&nbsp;are&nbsp;some&nbsp;circumstances&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;under&nbsp;which&nbsp;it&nbsp;makes&nbsp;economic&nbsp;sense&nbsp;for&nbsp;a&nbsp;software&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;closed.&nbsp;I&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;don't&nbsp;think&nbsp;those&nbsp;circumstances&nbsp;are&nbsp;very&nbsp;common,&nbsp;but&nbsp;sometimes&nbsp;it&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;makes&nbsp;sense&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;closed.&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I&nbsp;have&nbsp;no&nbsp;interest&nbsp;in&nbsp;forcing&nbsp;anybody&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;open&nbsp;when&nbsp;they&nbsp;think&nbsp;it's&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;a&nbsp;good&nbsp;idea&nbsp;for&nbsp;them&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;closed.&nbsp;If&nbsp;being&nbsp;open&nbsp;works&nbsp;better,&nbsp;then&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;people&nbsp;will&nbsp;learn&nbsp;that,&nbsp;and&nbsp;then&nbsp;they&nbsp;will&nbsp;do&nbsp;it.&nbsp;It's&nbsp;my&nbsp;job&nbsp;to&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;educate&nbsp;people&nbsp;but&nbsp;it's&nbsp;not&nbsp;my&nbsp;job&nbsp;to&nbsp;crusade.&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ChangeLog:&nbsp;Do&nbsp;you&nbsp;think&nbsp;binary&nbsp;software&nbsp;vendors&nbsp;survive&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;future?&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ESR:&nbsp;Yes.&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I&nbsp;think&nbsp;they&nbsp;will&nbsp;have&nbsp;a&nbsp;much&nbsp;smaller&nbsp;piece&nbsp;of&nbsp;industry&nbsp;than&nbsp;they&nbsp;do&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;now.&nbsp;In&nbsp;the&nbsp;future,&nbsp;my&nbsp;guess&nbsp;is&nbsp;that&nbsp;perhaps&nbsp;5&nbsp;to&nbsp;15&nbsp;percent&nbsp;of&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;software&nbsp;will&nbsp;be&nbsp;closed,&nbsp;and&nbsp;that&nbsp;all&nbsp;software&nbsp;of&nbsp;infrastructure&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;level,&nbsp;such&nbsp;as&nbsp;OS,&nbsp;network&nbsp;stacks,&nbsp;sure&nbsp;those&nbsp;kinds&nbsp;of&nbsp;software&nbsp;will&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;be&nbsp;open,&nbsp;but&nbsp;I&nbsp;think&nbsp;closed&nbsp;software&nbsp;still&nbsp;exist&nbsp;and&nbsp;that&nbsp;doesn't&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;bother&nbsp;me.&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ChangeLog:&nbsp;How&nbsp;would&nbsp;you&nbsp;define&nbsp;a&nbsp;&quot;good&nbsp;software&quot;?&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ESR:&nbsp;My&nbsp;definition&nbsp;of&nbsp;&quot;good&nbsp;software&quot;&nbsp;is,&nbsp;first&nbsp;of&nbsp;all,&nbsp;it&nbsp;doesn't&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;crash!&nbsp;(laugh)&nbsp;It&nbsp;has&nbsp;to&nbsp;not&nbsp;crash,&nbsp;it&nbsp;has&nbsp;to&nbsp;keep&nbsp;working,&nbsp;that's&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;pretty&nbsp;basic.&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;It&nbsp;has&nbsp;to&nbsp;do&nbsp;the&nbsp;jobs&nbsp;that&nbsp;it's&nbsp;designed&nbsp;to&nbsp;do&nbsp;in&nbsp;a&nbsp;way&nbsp;that&nbsp;human&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;beings&nbsp;can&nbsp;understand,&nbsp;because&nbsp;if&nbsp;it's&nbsp;not&nbsp;true&nbsp;that&nbsp;human&nbsp;beings&nbsp;can&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;use,&nbsp;it's&nbsp;pretty&nbsp;useless.&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;So&nbsp;it&nbsp;has&nbsp;to&nbsp;do&nbsp;the&nbsp;designed&nbsp;job&nbsp;well&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;way&nbsp;that&nbsp;human&nbsp;beings&nbsp;can&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;understand,&nbsp;and&nbsp;beyond&nbsp;that&nbsp;to&nbsp;get&nbsp;specific,&nbsp;you&nbsp;have&nbsp;to&nbsp;ask&nbsp;me&nbsp;what&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;kind&nbsp;of&nbsp;software,&nbsp;because&nbsp;different&nbsp;kinds&nbsp;of&nbsp;software&nbsp;have&nbsp;different&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;kinds&nbsp;of&nbsp;desirable&nbsp;qualities.&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;In&nbsp;some&nbsp;software,&nbsp;speed&nbsp;is&nbsp;all&nbsp;that's&nbsp;important,&nbsp;and&nbsp;in&nbsp;some&nbsp;software,&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;user&nbsp;interface&nbsp;is&nbsp;the&nbsp;most&nbsp;important&nbsp;thing.&nbsp;In&nbsp;some&nbsp;software,&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;correctly&nbsp;executing&nbsp;the&nbsp;particular&nbsp;complex&nbsp;algorithms&nbsp;is&nbsp;the&nbsp;most&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;important&nbsp;thing.&nbsp;So&nbsp;it's&nbsp;very&nbsp;hard&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;general&nbsp;about&nbsp;that.&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;But&nbsp;I&nbsp;think&nbsp;we&nbsp;can&nbsp;say&nbsp;that&nbsp;the&nbsp;very&nbsp;basic&nbsp;criterion&nbsp;is&nbsp;(knocking&nbsp;at&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the&nbsp;desk)&nbsp;it&nbsp;has&nbsp;to&nbsp;not&nbsp;crash!!&nbsp;(laugh)&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;(rat:&nbsp;这就是&quot;好软件&quot;的定义,&nbsp;以后大家努力啊!!!!!)&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ChangeLog:&nbsp;Would&nbsp;you&nbsp;give&nbsp;us&nbsp;an&nbsp;example&nbsp;of&nbsp;existing&nbsp;binary&nbsp;only&nbsp;good&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;software?&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ESR:&nbsp;Wow.&nbsp;That's&nbsp;tough.&nbsp;humm&nbsp;(thinking...)&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;you&nbsp;know,&nbsp;I&nbsp;haven't&nbsp;used&nbsp;binary&nbsp;only&nbsp;software&nbsp;for&nbsp;so&nbsp;long.&nbsp;(laughs...&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;attendant:&nbsp;&quot;what&nbsp;is&nbsp;that?&quot;...)&nbsp;<BR>
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