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<HTML><HEAD>  <TITLE>BBS水木清华站∶精华区</TITLE></HEAD><BODY><CENTER><H1>BBS水木清华站∶精华区</H1></CENTER>发信人:&nbsp;linuxrat&nbsp;(叫我老鼠错不了),&nbsp;信区:&nbsp;Linux&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>标&nbsp;&nbsp;题:&nbsp;咱们来看看LWN采访Alan&nbsp;Cox的记录吧.&nbsp;<BR>发信站:&nbsp;BBS&nbsp;水木清华站&nbsp;(Thu&nbsp;Dec&nbsp;30&nbsp;20:23:56&nbsp;1999)&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;呵呵,&nbsp;国内很少报道Alan&nbsp;Cox先生的哦.&nbsp;我自己把Alan&nbsp;Cox看成是Linux内核开发&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;小组的第二把手,&nbsp;各位呢?&nbsp;我听说过Alan&nbsp;Cox的一个小故事,&nbsp;是关于他在内核小&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;组邮递列表当中说&quot;Linus跟本不懂Linux&quot;的话.&nbsp;我看了Alan&nbsp;Cox的照片,&nbsp;cool呆了.&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;(Origin&nbsp;URL:&nbsp;<A HREF="http://lwn.net/)">http://lwn.net/)</A>&nbsp;<BR>=============Begin&nbsp;of&nbsp;Interview&nbsp;with&nbsp;Alan&nbsp;Cox====================&nbsp;<BR>LWN&nbsp;interviews&nbsp;Alan&nbsp;Cox&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Alan&nbsp;Cox&nbsp;Alan&nbsp;Cox&nbsp;is&nbsp;a&nbsp;name&nbsp;that&nbsp;should&nbsp;be&nbsp;well&nbsp;known&nbsp;to&nbsp;most&nbsp;Linux&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;users.&nbsp;He&nbsp;is&nbsp;responsible&nbsp;for&nbsp;much&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;code&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;Linux&nbsp;kernel,&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;including&nbsp;small&nbsp;pieces&nbsp;like&nbsp;networking&nbsp;and&nbsp;SMP.&nbsp;He&nbsp;has&nbsp;handled&nbsp;the&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;latter-day&nbsp;2.0&nbsp;releases,&nbsp;and&nbsp;serves&nbsp;as&nbsp;one&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;primary&nbsp;conduits&nbsp;for&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;patches&nbsp;into&nbsp;the&nbsp;current&nbsp;development&nbsp;kernels.&nbsp;He&nbsp;is&nbsp;certainly&nbsp;one&nbsp;of&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the&nbsp;key&nbsp;players&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;kernel&nbsp;development&nbsp;arena.&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;We&nbsp;thank&nbsp;Alan&nbsp;for&nbsp;taking&nbsp;time&nbsp;out&nbsp;of&nbsp;his&nbsp;busy&nbsp;schedule&nbsp;to&nbsp;answer&nbsp;a&nbsp;few&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;questions.&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;LWN:&nbsp;2.2.0&nbsp;has&nbsp;been&nbsp;a&nbsp;long&nbsp;time&nbsp;in&nbsp;coming.&nbsp;Too&nbsp;long,&nbsp;perhaps?&nbsp;Do&nbsp;you&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;think&nbsp;the&nbsp;2.3&nbsp;series&nbsp;will&nbsp;be&nbsp;shorter?&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;AC:&nbsp;I&nbsp;hope&nbsp;so&nbsp;-&nbsp;I'd&nbsp;like&nbsp;to&nbsp;see&nbsp;2.4&nbsp;being&nbsp;out&nbsp;early&nbsp;2000&nbsp;but&nbsp;it&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;depends&nbsp;entirely&nbsp;on&nbsp;Linus.&nbsp;I&nbsp;do&nbsp;think&nbsp;there&nbsp;is&nbsp;a&nbsp;general&nbsp;desire&nbsp;for&nbsp;a&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;much&nbsp;shorter&nbsp;turn&nbsp;around&nbsp;time&nbsp;for&nbsp;2.4.&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;LWN:&nbsp;What&nbsp;are&nbsp;the&nbsp;most&nbsp;interesting&nbsp;things&nbsp;that&nbsp;will&nbsp;happen&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;2.3&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;series?&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;AC:&nbsp;I'm&nbsp;not&nbsp;actually&nbsp;sure.&nbsp;It's&nbsp;possible&nbsp;to&nbsp;predict&nbsp;some&nbsp;things&nbsp;by&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;looking&nbsp;at&nbsp;patches&nbsp;that&nbsp;are&nbsp;pending&nbsp;post&nbsp;2.2&nbsp;or&nbsp;in&nbsp;progress.&nbsp;The&nbsp;clear&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ones&nbsp;are&nbsp;64bit&nbsp;file&nbsp;support,&nbsp;probably&nbsp;32bit&nbsp;uid&nbsp;support&nbsp;and&nbsp;support&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;for&nbsp;very&nbsp;large&nbsp;numbers&nbsp;of&nbsp;processes.&nbsp;On&nbsp;the&nbsp;device&nbsp;side,&nbsp;I'm&nbsp;expecting&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I2O&nbsp;and&nbsp;USB&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;in&nbsp;2.3.&nbsp;I'd&nbsp;hope&nbsp;the&nbsp;PCI&nbsp;bus/PCMCIA/Cardbus/Hotswap&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;clean&nbsp;ups&nbsp;that&nbsp;need&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;done&nbsp;occur.&nbsp;That&nbsp;actually&nbsp;has&nbsp;scope&nbsp;to&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;reduce&nbsp;kernel&nbsp;complexity&nbsp;rather&nbsp;than&nbsp;increase&nbsp;it,&nbsp;which&nbsp;is&nbsp;a&nbsp;good&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;sign.&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I'm&nbsp;not&nbsp;sure&nbsp;a&nbsp;lot&nbsp;will&nbsp;happen&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;networking&nbsp;arena&nbsp;that&nbsp;is&nbsp;visible&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;to&nbsp;end&nbsp;users&nbsp;-&nbsp;addition&nbsp;of&nbsp;DECnet&nbsp;isn't&nbsp;like&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;a&nbsp;major&nbsp;win&nbsp;to&nbsp;the&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;average&nbsp;user.&nbsp;ATM&nbsp;might&nbsp;well&nbsp;be&nbsp;more&nbsp;visible&nbsp;and&nbsp;it&nbsp;is&nbsp;about&nbsp;time&nbsp;it&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;got&nbsp;in.&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I'm&nbsp;looking&nbsp;forward&nbsp;to&nbsp;all&nbsp;the&nbsp;palmtop&nbsp;support&nbsp;being&nbsp;folded&nbsp;in&nbsp;-&nbsp;there&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;are&nbsp;several&nbsp;strands&nbsp;here&nbsp;and&nbsp;all&nbsp;of&nbsp;them&nbsp;are&nbsp;beginning&nbsp;to&nbsp;show&nbsp;clear&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;unified&nbsp;needs.&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;LWN:&nbsp;You&nbsp;seem&nbsp;to&nbsp;have&nbsp;taken&nbsp;on&nbsp;an&nbsp;increasingly&nbsp;organizational&nbsp;role&nbsp;in&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the&nbsp;kernel&nbsp;development&nbsp;process.&nbsp;Does&nbsp;that&nbsp;sit&nbsp;well&nbsp;with&nbsp;you,&nbsp;or&nbsp;would&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;you&nbsp;rather&nbsp;get&nbsp;back&nbsp;to&nbsp;more&nbsp;full-time&nbsp;hacking?&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;AC:&nbsp;It&nbsp;just&nbsp;sort&nbsp;of&nbsp;happened.&nbsp;I'm&nbsp;anticipating&nbsp;the&nbsp;amount&nbsp;of&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;co-ordination&nbsp;will&nbsp;go&nbsp;down&nbsp;again&nbsp;now&nbsp;that&nbsp;2.2&nbsp;is&nbsp;basically&nbsp;sorted&nbsp;out.&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I&nbsp;hope&nbsp;so&nbsp;anyway&nbsp;as&nbsp;I&nbsp;want&nbsp;to&nbsp;get&nbsp;the&nbsp;I2O&nbsp;code&nbsp;finished,&nbsp;debug&nbsp;the&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;3c527&nbsp;ethernet&nbsp;driver&nbsp;I&nbsp;am&nbsp;writing&nbsp;and&nbsp;use&nbsp;the&nbsp;work&nbsp;the&nbsp;vMac&nbsp;people&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;have&nbsp;done&nbsp;to&nbsp;attempt&nbsp;to&nbsp;get&nbsp;palette&nbsp;loading&nbsp;and&nbsp;floppy&nbsp;disks&nbsp;working&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;on&nbsp;the&nbsp;Macintosh&nbsp;68K.&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;LWN:&nbsp;And&nbsp;how&nbsp;do&nbsp;you&nbsp;manage&nbsp;to&nbsp;process&nbsp;(and&nbsp;produce)&nbsp;all&nbsp;that&nbsp;mail&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;every&nbsp;day&nbsp;and&nbsp;still&nbsp;get&nbsp;something&nbsp;done?&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;AC:&nbsp;That&nbsp;is&nbsp;actually&nbsp;fairly&nbsp;easy.&nbsp;I've&nbsp;always&nbsp;been&nbsp;a&nbsp;fast&nbsp;reader&nbsp;and&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;most&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;stuff&nbsp;I&nbsp;dig&nbsp;through&nbsp;requires&nbsp;little&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;way&nbsp;of&nbsp;a&nbsp;reply&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-&nbsp;a&nbsp;lot&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;mail&nbsp;I&nbsp;send&nbsp;is&nbsp;just&nbsp;pointing&nbsp;people&nbsp;at&nbsp;each&nbsp;other&nbsp;to&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;avoid&nbsp;duplication&nbsp;of&nbsp;work.&nbsp;Much&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;rest&nbsp;is&nbsp;tracking&nbsp;bugs&nbsp;and&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;patches.&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;All&nbsp;the&nbsp;patch&nbsp;merging&nbsp;and&nbsp;bug&nbsp;chasing&nbsp;is&nbsp;getting&nbsp;something&nbsp;done,&nbsp;so&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the&nbsp;mail&nbsp;scanning&nbsp;is&nbsp;definitely&nbsp;not&nbsp;time&nbsp;wasted.&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;LWN:&nbsp;Kernel&nbsp;development&nbsp;over&nbsp;the&nbsp;past&nbsp;year&nbsp;has&nbsp;been&nbsp;interrupted&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;occasionally&nbsp;by&nbsp;&quot;Linus&nbsp;burnout&quot;&nbsp;episodes.&nbsp;What&nbsp;are&nbsp;your&nbsp;thoughts&nbsp;on&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the&nbsp;sustainability&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;current&nbsp;development&nbsp;model?&nbsp;Is&nbsp;there&nbsp;anything&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;you&nbsp;would&nbsp;change?&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;AC:&nbsp;If&nbsp;I&nbsp;was&nbsp;the&nbsp;kernel&nbsp;organiser,&nbsp;there&nbsp;are&nbsp;quite&nbsp;a&nbsp;few&nbsp;things&nbsp;I'd&nbsp;do&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;differently.&nbsp;Right&nbsp;now&nbsp;Linus&nbsp;applies&nbsp;all&nbsp;the&nbsp;patches&nbsp;and&nbsp;builds&nbsp;the&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;trees,&nbsp;I'd&nbsp;much&nbsp;rather&nbsp;there&nbsp;were&nbsp;a&nbsp;group&nbsp;of&nbsp;people&nbsp;directly&nbsp;merging&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;patches&nbsp;into&nbsp;the&nbsp;kernel&nbsp;tree&nbsp;and&nbsp;Linus&nbsp;sitting&nbsp;watching&nbsp;it&nbsp;and&nbsp;vetoing&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;things&nbsp;rather&nbsp;than&nbsp;doing&nbsp;all&nbsp;the&nbsp;merge&nbsp;work,&nbsp;too.&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The&nbsp;model&nbsp;has&nbsp;changed&nbsp;over&nbsp;2.1.x&nbsp;and&nbsp;it&nbsp;has&nbsp;evolved&nbsp;to&nbsp;a&nbsp;kind&nbsp;of&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;compromise&nbsp;that&nbsp;seems&nbsp;to&nbsp;work&nbsp;very&nbsp;well.&nbsp;Linus&nbsp;is&nbsp;still&nbsp;applying&nbsp;all&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the&nbsp;patches&nbsp;but&nbsp;there&nbsp;are&nbsp;people&nbsp;now&nbsp;collating&nbsp;and&nbsp;feeding&nbsp;Linus&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;tested&nbsp;sets&nbsp;of&nbsp;patches&nbsp;in&nbsp;small&nbsp;cleanly&nbsp;organised&nbsp;groups.&nbsp;Larry&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;McVoy's&nbsp;new&nbsp;version&nbsp;control&nbsp;toys&nbsp;may&nbsp;solve&nbsp;some&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;remaining&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;problems.&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;LWN:&nbsp;Do&nbsp;you&nbsp;anticipate&nbsp;taking&nbsp;on&nbsp;responsibility&nbsp;for&nbsp;the&nbsp;2.2&nbsp;series&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;like&nbsp;you&nbsp;have&nbsp;with&nbsp;2.0,&nbsp;or&nbsp;will&nbsp;somebody&nbsp;else&nbsp;have&nbsp;to&nbsp;step&nbsp;up&nbsp;for&nbsp;that&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;one?&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;AC:&nbsp;I&nbsp;never&nbsp;really&nbsp;anticipated&nbsp;it&nbsp;with&nbsp;2.0.x;&nbsp;it&nbsp;simply&nbsp;happened&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;because&nbsp;I&nbsp;was&nbsp;collating&nbsp;all&nbsp;the&nbsp;patches.&nbsp;My&nbsp;guess&nbsp;is&nbsp;that,&nbsp;by&nbsp;the&nbsp;time&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2.2&nbsp;gets&nbsp;into&nbsp;that&nbsp;long&nbsp;term&nbsp;maintenance&nbsp;state,&nbsp;2.0.x&nbsp;will&nbsp;be&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;basically&nbsp;dead.&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;LWN:&nbsp;If&nbsp;you&nbsp;were&nbsp;to&nbsp;point&nbsp;at&nbsp;the&nbsp;biggest&nbsp;unmet&nbsp;need&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;Linux&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;world,&nbsp;the&nbsp;project&nbsp;most&nbsp;in&nbsp;need&nbsp;of&nbsp;volunteers&nbsp;currently,&nbsp;which&nbsp;would&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;that&nbsp;be?&nbsp;<BR>

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