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world&nbsp;that&nbsp;is&nbsp;Linux&nbsp;compatible,&nbsp;that&nbsp;is&nbsp;actually&nbsp;available&nbsp;in&nbsp;open&nbsp;source&nbsp;fo&nbsp;<BR>
rm&nbsp;and&nbsp;that&nbsp;appeals&nbsp;at&nbsp;every&nbsp;level,&nbsp;in&nbsp;a&nbsp;very&nbsp;big&nbsp;way.&nbsp;<BR>
There&nbsp;is&nbsp;no&nbsp;down&nbsp;side,&nbsp;for&nbsp;anybody.&nbsp;<BR>
Doc&nbsp;Searls:&nbsp;What&nbsp;does&nbsp;this&nbsp;do&nbsp;to&nbsp;Oracle?&nbsp;<BR>
Dale&nbsp;Fuller:&nbsp;It&nbsp;fires&nbsp;a&nbsp;bit&nbsp;of&nbsp;a&nbsp;cannonball&nbsp;across&nbsp;their&nbsp;bow.&nbsp;It&nbsp;is&nbsp;going&nbsp;to&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;be&nbsp;much&nbsp;more&nbsp;difficult&nbsp;for&nbsp;them&nbsp;to&nbsp;follow&nbsp;along.&nbsp;Their&nbsp;<BR>
whole&nbsp;game&nbsp;is&nbsp;about&nbsp;deployment&nbsp;and&nbsp;charging&nbsp;money&nbsp;after&nbsp;you&nbsp;develop&nbsp;on&nbsp;it.&nbsp;I&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;think&nbsp;open&nbsp;sourcing&nbsp;InterBase&nbsp;will&nbsp;have&nbsp;a&nbsp;more&nbsp;<BR>
immediate&nbsp;effect&nbsp;where&nbsp;Solaris&nbsp;and&nbsp;Windows&nbsp;NT&nbsp;are&nbsp;deployed.&nbsp;One&nbsp;reason&nbsp;is&nbsp;th&nbsp;<BR>
at&nbsp;it&nbsp;validates&nbsp;the&nbsp;Linux&nbsp;platform&nbsp;in&nbsp;a&nbsp;very&nbsp;<BR>
significant&nbsp;way.&nbsp;It&nbsp;makes&nbsp;Linux&nbsp;far&nbsp;more&nbsp;competitive&nbsp;as&nbsp;a&nbsp;platform.&nbsp;With&nbsp;Lin&nbsp;<BR>
ux&nbsp;you&nbsp;already&nbsp;have&nbsp;something&nbsp;that&nbsp;amazingly&nbsp;in&nbsp;a&nbsp;<BR>
very&nbsp;short&nbsp;time&nbsp;is&nbsp;revolutionizing&nbsp;the&nbsp;world.&nbsp;This&nbsp;will&nbsp;step&nbsp;up&nbsp;that&nbsp;revolut&nbsp;<BR>
ion&nbsp;by&nbsp;making&nbsp;databases&nbsp;a&nbsp;significant&nbsp;part&nbsp;of&nbsp;it.&nbsp;<BR>
Doc&nbsp;Searls:&nbsp;And&nbsp;in&nbsp;what&nbsp;situations&nbsp;does&nbsp;it&nbsp;threaten&nbsp;Solaris&nbsp;and&nbsp;NT?&nbsp;<BR>
Dale&nbsp;Fuller:&nbsp;Growing&nbsp;ones.&nbsp;NT&nbsp;is&nbsp;not&nbsp;the&nbsp;most&nbsp;scalable&nbsp;OS.&nbsp;Solaris&nbsp;is&nbsp;more&nbsp;s&nbsp;<BR>
calable,&nbsp;but&nbsp;it's&nbsp;also&nbsp;expensive,&nbsp;so&nbsp;high&nbsp;cost&nbsp;itself&nbsp;<BR>
is&nbsp;an&nbsp;impediment&nbsp;to&nbsp;growth.&nbsp;Customers&nbsp;are&nbsp;constantly&nbsp;looking&nbsp;for&nbsp;economicall&nbsp;<BR>
y&nbsp;scalable&nbsp;solutions.&nbsp;The&nbsp;combination&nbsp;of&nbsp;Linux&nbsp;<BR>
and&nbsp;InterBase&nbsp;gives&nbsp;them&nbsp;that.&nbsp;We&nbsp;also&nbsp;have&nbsp;a&nbsp;translator&nbsp;that&nbsp;transforms&nbsp;the&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;entire&nbsp;data&nbsp;set&nbsp;out&nbsp;of&nbsp;SQL&nbsp;Server&nbsp;and&nbsp;into&nbsp;<BR>
InterBase.&nbsp;And&nbsp;it&nbsp;will&nbsp;run&nbsp;under&nbsp;Linux&nbsp;or&nbsp;Solaris&nbsp;or&nbsp;any&nbsp;other&nbsp;platform.&nbsp;Thi&nbsp;<BR>
s&nbsp;is&nbsp;very&nbsp;appealing.&nbsp;<BR>
Doc&nbsp;Searls:&nbsp;The&nbsp;notion&nbsp;we've&nbsp;had&nbsp;for&nbsp;a&nbsp;long&nbsp;time&nbsp;is&nbsp;that&nbsp;you're&nbsp;building&nbsp;on&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
an&nbsp;operating&nbsp;system&nbsp;platform.&nbsp;But&nbsp;in&nbsp;fact&nbsp;<BR>
your&nbsp;building&nbsp;itself&nbsp;is&nbsp;mostly&nbsp;data,&nbsp;no&nbsp;matter&nbsp;what&nbsp;platform&nbsp;you&nbsp;build&nbsp;it&nbsp;on&nbsp;<BR>
.&nbsp;Data&nbsp;is&nbsp;what&nbsp;you&nbsp;care&nbsp;about.&nbsp;<BR>
Dale&nbsp;Fuller:&nbsp;Yes.&nbsp;And&nbsp;what&nbsp;you&nbsp;get&nbsp;with&nbsp;an&nbsp;open&nbsp;source&nbsp;approach&nbsp;to&nbsp;data&nbsp;is&nbsp;f&nbsp;<BR>
ar&nbsp;more&nbsp;safety.&nbsp;Because&nbsp;you&nbsp;can&nbsp;actually&nbsp;see&nbsp;<BR>
what&nbsp;this&nbsp;database&nbsp;application&nbsp;is&nbsp;doing&nbsp;to&nbsp;your&nbsp;data.&nbsp;You&nbsp;can&nbsp;get&nbsp;under&nbsp;the&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
floor&nbsp;and&nbsp;see&nbsp;what's&nbsp;causing&nbsp;the&nbsp;squeak.&nbsp;<BR>
Doc&nbsp;Searls:&nbsp;That's&nbsp;an&nbsp;interesting&nbsp;redefinition&nbsp;of&nbsp;data,&nbsp;because&nbsp;it&nbsp;presumes&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
that&nbsp;responsibility&nbsp;belongs&nbsp;to&nbsp;the&nbsp;builders&nbsp;<BR>
rather&nbsp;than&nbsp;the&nbsp;suppliers.&nbsp;It&nbsp;isn't&nbsp;like&nbsp;the&nbsp;old&nbsp;days&nbsp;when&nbsp;you&nbsp;wanted&nbsp;to&nbsp;tru&nbsp;<BR>
st&nbsp;the&nbsp;large&nbsp;company&nbsp;that&nbsp;would&nbsp;send&nbsp;out&nbsp;<BR>
guys&nbsp;to&nbsp;fix&nbsp;your&nbsp;problem.&nbsp;<BR>
Dale&nbsp;Fuller:&nbsp;Enterprises&nbsp;increasingly&nbsp;want&nbsp;the&nbsp;flexibility&nbsp;to&nbsp;fix&nbsp;stuff&nbsp;them&nbsp;<BR>
selves.&nbsp;Or&nbsp;have&nbsp;some&nbsp;choice&nbsp;about&nbsp;the&nbsp;help&nbsp;they&nbsp;get.&nbsp;<BR>
You&nbsp;can&nbsp;still&nbsp;go&nbsp;out&nbsp;and&nbsp;hire&nbsp;somebody&nbsp;to&nbsp;fix&nbsp;your&nbsp;problem,&nbsp;but&nbsp;isn't&nbsp;it&nbsp;nic&nbsp;<BR>
e&nbsp;to&nbsp;know&nbsp;you&nbsp;have&nbsp;some&nbsp;options&nbsp;here?&nbsp;<BR>
Doc&nbsp;Searls:&nbsp;And&nbsp;that&nbsp;there&nbsp;is&nbsp;a&nbsp;wide-open&nbsp;market&nbsp;for&nbsp;those&nbsp;services.&nbsp;<BR>
Dale&nbsp;Fuller:&nbsp;I&nbsp;think&nbsp;what&nbsp;you're&nbsp;giving&nbsp;people&nbsp;is&nbsp;choices.&nbsp;Before&nbsp;they&nbsp;never&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;had&nbsp;that.&nbsp;<BR>
Doc&nbsp;Searls:&nbsp;And&nbsp;you&nbsp;think&nbsp;scalability&nbsp;is&nbsp;the&nbsp;big&nbsp;issue.&nbsp;<BR>
Dale&nbsp;Fuller:&nbsp;I&nbsp;think&nbsp;scalability&nbsp;is&nbsp;going&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;a&nbsp;gigantic&nbsp;problem,&nbsp;one&nbsp;that&nbsp;<BR>
's&nbsp;going&nbsp;to&nbsp;make&nbsp;a&nbsp;lot&nbsp;of&nbsp;Linux&nbsp;converts&nbsp;out&nbsp;of&nbsp;a&nbsp;lot&nbsp;of&nbsp;<BR>
big&nbsp;companies.&nbsp;<BR>
Doc&nbsp;Searls:&nbsp;One&nbsp;key&nbsp;is&nbsp;going&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;exposing&nbsp;some&nbsp;of&nbsp;what's&nbsp;actually&nbsp;happenin&nbsp;<BR>
g&nbsp;with&nbsp;Linux&nbsp;in&nbsp;enterprises.&nbsp;As&nbsp;we&nbsp;just&nbsp;<BR>
said,&nbsp;that&nbsp;activity&nbsp;is&nbsp;not&nbsp;always&nbsp;visible.&nbsp;<BR>
Dale&nbsp;Fuller:&nbsp;In&nbsp;many&nbsp;cases,&nbsp;companies&nbsp;don't&nbsp;want&nbsp;to&nbsp;give&nbsp;away&nbsp;a&nbsp;technical&nbsp;ad&nbsp;<BR>
vantage.&nbsp;It's&nbsp;a&nbsp;secret&nbsp;weapon.&nbsp;That's&nbsp;why&nbsp;I&nbsp;told&nbsp;<BR>
my&nbsp;competitors&nbsp;at&nbsp;HotMail,&nbsp;&quot;Man,&nbsp;we've&nbsp;got&nbsp;to&nbsp;stay&nbsp;Solaris&nbsp;all&nbsp;the&nbsp;time.&quot;&nbsp;Me&nbsp;<BR>
anwhile&nbsp;we&nbsp;were&nbsp;marching&nbsp;down&nbsp;the&nbsp;path&nbsp;of&nbsp;<BR>
Linux,&nbsp;making&nbsp;money&nbsp;because&nbsp;Linux&nbsp;was&nbsp;cheap.&nbsp;<BR>
Doc&nbsp;Searls:&nbsp;So&nbsp;you&nbsp;didn't&nbsp;talk&nbsp;up&nbsp;Linux&nbsp;when&nbsp;you&nbsp;were&nbsp;doing&nbsp;Angelfire.&nbsp;<BR>
Dale&nbsp;Fuler:&nbsp;No,&nbsp;we&nbsp;didn't.&nbsp;Another&nbsp;reason&nbsp;was&nbsp;that,&nbsp;frankly,&nbsp;we&nbsp;didn't&nbsp;hate&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
Microsoft.&nbsp;In&nbsp;fact,&nbsp;Microsoft&nbsp;was&nbsp;willing&nbsp;to&nbsp;pay&nbsp;<BR>
us&nbsp;millions&nbsp;of&nbsp;dollars&nbsp;to&nbsp;port&nbsp;one&nbsp;of&nbsp;our&nbsp;applications&nbsp;to&nbsp;NT.&nbsp;Maybe&nbsp;that&nbsp;put&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;us&nbsp;out&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;Linux&nbsp;mainstream&nbsp;at&nbsp;that&nbsp;time;&nbsp;but&nbsp;<BR>
Linux&nbsp;has&nbsp;grown&nbsp;since&nbsp;then,&nbsp;and&nbsp;it&nbsp;now&nbsp;includes&nbsp;a&nbsp;lot&nbsp;of&nbsp;companies&nbsp;like&nbsp;ours&nbsp;<BR>
,&nbsp;that&nbsp;use&nbsp;both&nbsp;platforms&nbsp;-&nbsp;and&nbsp;others&nbsp;as&nbsp;well.&nbsp;<BR>
Companies&nbsp;like&nbsp;this&nbsp;take&nbsp;very&nbsp;pragmatic&nbsp;views&nbsp;of&nbsp;these&nbsp;matters.&nbsp;Basically,&nbsp;t&nbsp;<BR>
hey&nbsp;want&nbsp;something&nbsp;that's&nbsp;bulletproof&nbsp;and&nbsp;scales.&nbsp;<BR>
InterBase&nbsp;always&nbsp;gave&nbsp;them&nbsp;that,&nbsp;but&nbsp;now&nbsp;it&nbsp;will&nbsp;be&nbsp;in&nbsp;a&nbsp;new&nbsp;and&nbsp;better&nbsp;way.&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
Doc&nbsp;Searls:&nbsp;So&nbsp;you're&nbsp;clearly&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;Linux&nbsp;movement&nbsp;now.&nbsp;<BR>
Dale&nbsp;Fuller:&nbsp;Back&nbsp;then&nbsp;we&nbsp;were&nbsp;deeply&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;movement,&nbsp;but&nbsp;just&nbsp;not&nbsp;in&nbsp;a&nbsp;hig&nbsp;<BR>
hly&nbsp;visible&nbsp;way.&nbsp;Now&nbsp;we're&nbsp;changing&nbsp;that.&nbsp;<BR>
Doc&nbsp;Searls:&nbsp;How&nbsp;does&nbsp;it&nbsp;feel&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;a&nbsp;Linux&nbsp;company?&nbsp;<BR>
Dale&nbsp;Fuller:&nbsp;Great.&nbsp;I&nbsp;love&nbsp;what's&nbsp;happening&nbsp;now,&nbsp;because&nbsp;I&nbsp;was&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;UNIX&nbsp;w&nbsp;<BR>
orld&nbsp;a&nbsp;long&nbsp;time&nbsp;ago,&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;early&nbsp;80s,&nbsp;when&nbsp;<BR>
AI&nbsp;was&nbsp;the&nbsp;rage.&nbsp;I&nbsp;worked&nbsp;on&nbsp;Common&nbsp;LISP&nbsp;at&nbsp;TI.&nbsp;The&nbsp;Micro&nbsp;Explorer&nbsp;was&nbsp;my&nbsp;pr&nbsp;<BR>
oject.&nbsp;The&nbsp;problem&nbsp;was,&nbsp;we&nbsp;had&nbsp;to&nbsp;do&nbsp;the&nbsp;<BR>
sexy&nbsp;thing.&nbsp;We&nbsp;had&nbsp;to&nbsp;solve&nbsp;all&nbsp;the&nbsp;problems&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;world,&nbsp;and&nbsp;that&nbsp;just&nbsp;was&nbsp;<BR>
n't&nbsp;a&nbsp;commercially&nbsp;workable&nbsp;goal.&nbsp;Industry&nbsp;kept&nbsp;<BR>
coming&nbsp;back&nbsp;to&nbsp;us&nbsp;and&nbsp;saying,&nbsp;&quot;Just&nbsp;solve&nbsp;one&nbsp;friggin'&nbsp;problem.&quot;&nbsp;We&nbsp;couldn't&nbsp;<BR>
.&nbsp;Academia&nbsp;went&nbsp;for&nbsp;perfection&nbsp;and&nbsp;destroyed&nbsp;AI,&nbsp;<BR>
because&nbsp;they&nbsp;didn't&nbsp;focus&nbsp;on&nbsp;the&nbsp;business&nbsp;aspects&nbsp;of&nbsp;it.&nbsp;I'm&nbsp;not&nbsp;seeing&nbsp;this&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;with&nbsp;Linux.&nbsp;This&nbsp;time&nbsp;there&nbsp;is&nbsp;a&nbsp;consensus&nbsp;about&nbsp;the&nbsp;<BR>
general&nbsp;direction&nbsp;of&nbsp;things,&nbsp;and&nbsp;solving&nbsp;business&nbsp;problems&nbsp;is&nbsp;a&nbsp;big&nbsp;part&nbsp;of&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
it.&nbsp;<BR>
Doc&nbsp;Searls:&nbsp;As&nbsp;an&nbsp;ex-Apple&nbsp;guy,&nbsp;are&nbsp;you&nbsp;glad&nbsp;to&nbsp;see&nbsp;the&nbsp;company&nbsp;make&nbsp;open&nbsp;so&nbsp;<BR>
urce&nbsp;moves&nbsp;with&nbsp;OS-X?&nbsp;<BR>
Dale&nbsp;Fuller:&nbsp;I&nbsp;think&nbsp;it's&nbsp;absolutely&nbsp;the&nbsp;right&nbsp;move.&nbsp;It&nbsp;will&nbsp;drive&nbsp;so&nbsp;much&nbsp;m&nbsp;<BR>
ore&nbsp;adoption,&nbsp;and&nbsp;bringing&nbsp;in&nbsp;more&nbsp;ingenuity,&nbsp;more&nbsp;<BR>
creativity.&nbsp;The&nbsp;more&nbsp;open&nbsp;you&nbsp;can&nbsp;make&nbsp;it,&nbsp;the&nbsp;more&nbsp;opportunities&nbsp;you&nbsp;have&nbsp;f&nbsp;<BR>
or&nbsp;developers&nbsp;to&nbsp;get&nbsp;in&nbsp;and&nbsp;actually&nbsp;make&nbsp;things&nbsp;<BR>
worthwhile.&nbsp;That's&nbsp;the&nbsp;great&nbsp;thing&nbsp;about&nbsp;Linux.&nbsp;Nobody&nbsp;owns&nbsp;it,&nbsp;so&nbsp;it&nbsp;become&nbsp;<BR>
s&nbsp;a&nbsp;very&nbsp;creative&nbsp;platform.&nbsp;It&nbsp;makes&nbsp;me&nbsp;<BR>
encourage&nbsp;Microsoft&nbsp;to&nbsp;open&nbsp;their&nbsp;OS.&nbsp;<BR>
Doc&nbsp;Searls:&nbsp;I&nbsp;don't&nbsp;think&nbsp;it's&nbsp;out&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;question.&nbsp;<BR>
Dale&nbsp;Fuller:&nbsp;It's&nbsp;two&nbsp;years&nbsp;away.&nbsp;<BR>
Doc&nbsp;Searls:&nbsp;They&nbsp;need&nbsp;more&nbsp;of&nbsp;a&nbsp;sex&nbsp;change&nbsp;before&nbsp;they'll&nbsp;do&nbsp;it;&nbsp;but&nbsp;fundame&nbsp;<BR>
ntally&nbsp;they&nbsp;are&nbsp;a&nbsp;practical&nbsp;company,&nbsp;and&nbsp;<BR>
they&nbsp;have&nbsp;no&nbsp;religion&nbsp;about&nbsp;keeping&nbsp;alive&nbsp;their&nbsp;dying&nbsp;products,&nbsp;which&nbsp;is&nbsp;a&nbsp;r&nbsp;<BR>
eal&nbsp;advantage.&nbsp;<BR>
Dale&nbsp;Fuller:&nbsp;Meanwhile,&nbsp;there's&nbsp;lots&nbsp;to&nbsp;do&nbsp;here,&nbsp;and&nbsp;we're&nbsp;ready.&nbsp;And&nbsp;we&nbsp;inv&nbsp;<BR>
ite&nbsp;Linux&nbsp;Journal&nbsp;readers&nbsp;to&nbsp;jump&nbsp;in&nbsp;and&nbsp;help&nbsp;<BR>
with&nbsp;this&nbsp;thing,&nbsp;any&nbsp;way&nbsp;they&nbsp;can.&nbsp;<BR>
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