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<HTML><HEAD>  <TITLE>BBS水木清华站∶精华区</TITLE></HEAD><BODY><CENTER><H1>BBS水木清华站∶精华区</H1></CENTER>发信人:&nbsp;<A HREF="mailto:jero.bbs@csie.nctu.edu.tw">jero.bbs@csie.nctu.edu.tw</A>&nbsp;(),&nbsp;看板:&nbsp;386BSD&nbsp;<BR>标&nbsp;&nbsp;题:&nbsp;Re:&nbsp;很好奇...关於foo的来源&nbsp;<BR>发信站:&nbsp;交大资工凤凰城资讯站&nbsp;(Fri&nbsp;Dec&nbsp;20&nbsp;09:48:28&nbsp;1996)&nbsp;<BR>转信站:&nbsp;sobee!netnews.ntu!linux2.tpml!UUserv.Net.tw!news.cis.nctu!news.csie.nc&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>==&gt;&nbsp;在&nbsp;<A HREF="mailto:asee.bbs@freebsd.ee.ntu.edu.tw">asee.bbs@freebsd.ee.ntu.edu.tw</A>&nbsp;(菜鸟SA)&nbsp;的文章中提到:&nbsp;<BR>∶<I>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;看了不少programming跟unix相关的书籍&nbsp;</I><BR>∶<I>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;里头多多少少会有&nbsp;foo&nbsp;这个字的出现。&nbsp;</I><BR>∶<I>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;很好其他的来源是什麽？&nbsp;</I><BR>∶<I>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;是不是有啥典故勒？&nbsp;</I><BR>&nbsp;<BR>foo&nbsp;/foo/&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>1.&nbsp;/interj./&nbsp;Term&nbsp;of&nbsp;disgust.&nbsp;2.&nbsp;Used&nbsp;very&nbsp;generally&nbsp;as&nbsp;a&nbsp;sample&nbsp;name&nbsp;for&nbsp;absolutely&nbsp;anything,&nbsp;esp.&nbsp;programs&nbsp;and&nbsp;<BR>files&nbsp;(esp.&nbsp;scratch&nbsp;files).&nbsp;3.&nbsp;First&nbsp;on&nbsp;the&nbsp;standard&nbsp;list&nbsp;of&nbsp;metasyntactic&nbsp;variables&nbsp;used&nbsp;in&nbsp;syntax&nbsp;examples.&nbsp;See&nbsp;also&nbsp;<BR>bar,&nbsp;baz,&nbsp;qux,&nbsp;quux,&nbsp;corge,&nbsp;grault,&nbsp;garply,&nbsp;waldo,&nbsp;fred,&nbsp;plugh,&nbsp;xyzzy,&nbsp;thud.&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>The&nbsp;etymology&nbsp;of&nbsp;hackish&nbsp;`foo'&nbsp;is&nbsp;obscure.&nbsp;When&nbsp;used&nbsp;in&nbsp;connection&nbsp;with&nbsp;`bar'&nbsp;it&nbsp;is&nbsp;generally&nbsp;traced&nbsp;to&nbsp;the&nbsp;<BR>WWII-era&nbsp;Army&nbsp;slang&nbsp;acronym&nbsp;FUBAR&nbsp;(`Fucked&nbsp;Up&nbsp;Beyond&nbsp;All&nbsp;Repair'),&nbsp;later&nbsp;bowdlerized&nbsp;to&nbsp;foobar.&nbsp;(See&nbsp;also&nbsp;<BR>FUBAR.)&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>However,&nbsp;the&nbsp;use&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;word&nbsp;`foo'&nbsp;itself&nbsp;has&nbsp;more&nbsp;complicated&nbsp;antecedents,&nbsp;including&nbsp;a&nbsp;long&nbsp;history&nbsp;in&nbsp;comic&nbsp;<BR>strips&nbsp;and&nbsp;cartoons.&nbsp;The&nbsp;old&nbsp;&quot;Smokey&nbsp;Stover&quot;&nbsp;comic&nbsp;strips&nbsp;by&nbsp;Bill&nbsp;Holman&nbsp;often&nbsp;included&nbsp;the&nbsp;word&nbsp;`FOO',&nbsp;in&nbsp;<BR>particular&nbsp;on&nbsp;license&nbsp;plates&nbsp;of&nbsp;cars;&nbsp;allegedly,&nbsp;`FOO'&nbsp;and&nbsp;`BAR'&nbsp;also&nbsp;occurred&nbsp;in&nbsp;Walt&nbsp;Kelly's&nbsp;&quot;Pogo&quot;&nbsp;strips.&nbsp;In&nbsp;the&nbsp;<BR>1938&nbsp;cartoon&nbsp;&quot;The&nbsp;Daffy&nbsp;Doc&quot;,&nbsp;a&nbsp;very&nbsp;early&nbsp;version&nbsp;of&nbsp;Daffy&nbsp;Duck&nbsp;holds&nbsp;up&nbsp;a&nbsp;sign&nbsp;saying&nbsp;&quot;SILENCE&nbsp;IS&nbsp;FOO!&quot;;&nbsp;<BR>oddly,&nbsp;this&nbsp;seems&nbsp;to&nbsp;refer&nbsp;to&nbsp;some&nbsp;approving&nbsp;or&nbsp;positive&nbsp;affirmative&nbsp;use&nbsp;of&nbsp;foo.&nbsp;It&nbsp;has&nbsp;been&nbsp;suggested&nbsp;that&nbsp;this&nbsp;<BR>might&nbsp;be&nbsp;related&nbsp;to&nbsp;the&nbsp;Chinese&nbsp;word&nbsp;`fu'&nbsp;(sometimes&nbsp;transliterated&nbsp;`foo'),&nbsp;which&nbsp;can&nbsp;mean&nbsp;&quot;happiness&quot;&nbsp;when&nbsp;<BR>spoken&nbsp;with&nbsp;the&nbsp;proper&nbsp;tone&nbsp;(the&nbsp;lion-dog&nbsp;guardians&nbsp;flanking&nbsp;the&nbsp;steps&nbsp;of&nbsp;many&nbsp;Chinese&nbsp;restaurants&nbsp;are&nbsp;properly&nbsp;<BR>called&nbsp;&quot;fu&nbsp;dogs&quot;).&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Paul&nbsp;Dickson's&nbsp;excellent&nbsp;book&nbsp;&quot;Words&quot;&nbsp;(Dell,&nbsp;1982,&nbsp;ISBN&nbsp;0-440-52260-7)&nbsp;traces&nbsp;&quot;Foo&quot;&nbsp;to&nbsp;an&nbsp;unspecified&nbsp;British&nbsp;<BR>naval&nbsp;magazine&nbsp;in&nbsp;1946,&nbsp;quoting&nbsp;as&nbsp;follows:&nbsp;&quot;Mr.&nbsp;Foo&nbsp;is&nbsp;a&nbsp;mysterious&nbsp;Second&nbsp;World&nbsp;War&nbsp;product,&nbsp;gifted&nbsp;with&nbsp;<BR>bitter&nbsp;omniscience&nbsp;and&nbsp;sarcasm.&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Other&nbsp;sources&nbsp;confirm&nbsp;that&nbsp;`FOO'&nbsp;was&nbsp;a&nbsp;semi-legendary&nbsp;subject&nbsp;of&nbsp;WWII&nbsp;British-army&nbsp;graffiti&nbsp;more-or-less&nbsp;<BR>equivalent&nbsp;to&nbsp;the&nbsp;American&nbsp;Kilroy.&nbsp;Where&nbsp;British&nbsp;troops&nbsp;went,&nbsp;the&nbsp;graffito&nbsp;&quot;FOO&nbsp;was&nbsp;here&quot;&nbsp;or&nbsp;something&nbsp;similar&nbsp;<BR>showed&nbsp;up.&nbsp;Several&nbsp;slang&nbsp;dictionaries&nbsp;aver&nbsp;that&nbsp;FOO&nbsp;probably&nbsp;came&nbsp;from&nbsp;Forward&nbsp;Observation&nbsp;Officer.&nbsp;In&nbsp;this&nbsp;<BR>connection,&nbsp;the&nbsp;later&nbsp;American&nbsp;military&nbsp;slang&nbsp;`foo&nbsp;fighters'&nbsp;is&nbsp;interesting;&nbsp;at&nbsp;least&nbsp;as&nbsp;far&nbsp;back&nbsp;as&nbsp;the&nbsp;1950s,&nbsp;radar&nbsp;<BR>operators&nbsp;used&nbsp;it&nbsp;for&nbsp;the&nbsp;kind&nbsp;of&nbsp;mysterious&nbsp;or&nbsp;spurious&nbsp;trace&nbsp;that&nbsp;would&nbsp;later&nbsp;be&nbsp;called&nbsp;a&nbsp;UFO&nbsp;(the&nbsp;older&nbsp;term&nbsp;<BR>resurfaced&nbsp;in&nbsp;popular&nbsp;American&nbsp;usage&nbsp;in&nbsp;1995&nbsp;via&nbsp;the&nbsp;name&nbsp;of&nbsp;one&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;better&nbsp;grunge-rock&nbsp;bands).&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Earlier&nbsp;versions&nbsp;of&nbsp;this&nbsp;entry&nbsp;suggested&nbsp;the&nbsp;possibility&nbsp;that&nbsp;hacker&nbsp;usage&nbsp;actually&nbsp;sprang&nbsp;from&nbsp;&quot;FOO,&nbsp;Lampoons&nbsp;<BR>and&nbsp;Parody&quot;,&nbsp;the&nbsp;title&nbsp;of&nbsp;a&nbsp;comic&nbsp;book&nbsp;first&nbsp;issued&nbsp;in&nbsp;September&nbsp;1958,&nbsp;a&nbsp;joint&nbsp;project&nbsp;of&nbsp;Charles&nbsp;and&nbsp;Robert&nbsp;<BR>Crumb.&nbsp;Though&nbsp;Robert&nbsp;Crumb&nbsp;(then&nbsp;in&nbsp;his&nbsp;mid-teens)&nbsp;later&nbsp;became&nbsp;one&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;most&nbsp;important&nbsp;and&nbsp;influential&nbsp;<BR>artists&nbsp;in&nbsp;underground&nbsp;comics,&nbsp;this&nbsp;venture&nbsp;was&nbsp;hardly&nbsp;a&nbsp;success;&nbsp;indeed,&nbsp;the&nbsp;brothers&nbsp;later&nbsp;burned&nbsp;most&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;<BR>existing&nbsp;copies&nbsp;in&nbsp;disgust.&nbsp;The&nbsp;title&nbsp;FOO&nbsp;was&nbsp;featured&nbsp;in&nbsp;large&nbsp;letters&nbsp;on&nbsp;the&nbsp;front&nbsp;cover.&nbsp;However,&nbsp;very&nbsp;few&nbsp;<BR>copies&nbsp;of&nbsp;this&nbsp;comic&nbsp;actually&nbsp;circulated,&nbsp;and&nbsp;students&nbsp;of&nbsp;Crumb's&nbsp;`oeuvre'&nbsp;have&nbsp;established&nbsp;that&nbsp;this&nbsp;title&nbsp;was&nbsp;a&nbsp;<BR>reference&nbsp;to&nbsp;the&nbsp;earlier&nbsp;Smokey&nbsp;Stover&nbsp;comics.&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>An&nbsp;old-time&nbsp;member&nbsp;reports&nbsp;that&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;1959&nbsp;&quot;Dictionary&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;TMRC&nbsp;Language&quot;,&nbsp;compiled&nbsp;at&nbsp;TMRC,&nbsp;there&nbsp;was&nbsp;<BR>an&nbsp;entry&nbsp;that&nbsp;went&nbsp;something&nbsp;like&nbsp;this:&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;FOO:&nbsp;The&nbsp;first&nbsp;syllable&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;sacred&nbsp;chant&nbsp;phrase&nbsp;&quot;FOO&nbsp;MANE&nbsp;PADME&nbsp;HUM.&quot;&nbsp;Our&nbsp;first&nbsp;obligation&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;is&nbsp;to&nbsp;keep&nbsp;the&nbsp;foo&nbsp;counters&nbsp;turning.&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>For&nbsp;more&nbsp;about&nbsp;the&nbsp;legendary&nbsp;foo&nbsp;counters,&nbsp;see&nbsp;TMRC.&nbsp;Almost&nbsp;the&nbsp;entire&nbsp;staff&nbsp;of&nbsp;what&nbsp;later&nbsp;became&nbsp;the&nbsp;MIT&nbsp;AI&nbsp;<BR>Lab&nbsp;was&nbsp;involved&nbsp;with&nbsp;TMRC,&nbsp;and&nbsp;probably&nbsp;picked&nbsp;the&nbsp;word&nbsp;up&nbsp;there.&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Very&nbsp;probably,&nbsp;hackish&nbsp;`foo'&nbsp;had&nbsp;no&nbsp;single&nbsp;origin&nbsp;and&nbsp;derives&nbsp;through&nbsp;all&nbsp;these&nbsp;channels&nbsp;from&nbsp;Yiddish&nbsp;`feh'&nbsp;<BR>and/or&nbsp;English&nbsp;`fooey'.&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><CENTER><H1>BBS水木清华站∶精华区</H1></CENTER></BODY></HTML>
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