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<TITLE>BBS水木清华站∶精华区</TITLE></HEAD><BODY><CENTER><H1>BBS水木清华站∶精华区</H1></CENTER>发信人:&nbsp;linuxrat&nbsp;(竹剑居士*农大历史上最差的学生),&nbsp;信区:&nbsp;Linux&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>标&nbsp;&nbsp;题:&nbsp;RMS的最新访谈[FWD]&nbsp;<BR>发信站:&nbsp;BBS&nbsp;水木清华站&nbsp;(Sat&nbsp;Jan&nbsp;22&nbsp;09:40:52&nbsp;2000)&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;这些年头RMS大爷真是不简单啊.&nbsp;Happy&nbsp;hacking!!!&nbsp;<BR>======Begin===========&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Network&nbsp;News&nbsp;[21&nbsp;Jan&nbsp;2000]&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The&nbsp;fight&nbsp;to&nbsp;keep&nbsp;'free&nbsp;software'&nbsp;free.&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Richard&nbsp;Stallman&nbsp;could&nbsp;be&nbsp;described&nbsp;as&nbsp;the&nbsp;godfather&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;Open&nbsp;Source&nbsp;movement,&nbsp;but&nbsp;not&nbsp;to&nbsp;his&nbsp;face.&nbsp;RMS,&nbsp;as&nbsp;he&nbsp;is&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;affectionately&nbsp;known&nbsp;by&nbsp;Open&nbsp;Source&nbsp;afficianados&nbsp;the&nbsp;world&nbsp;over,&nbsp;has&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;for&nbsp;nearly&nbsp;30&nbsp;years&nbsp;been&nbsp;campaigning&nbsp;in&nbsp;his&nbsp;own&nbsp;inimitable&nbsp;style&nbsp;for&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;free&nbsp;software&nbsp;('free'&nbsp;as&nbsp;in&nbsp;free&nbsp;speech).&nbsp;He&nbsp;rejects&nbsp;Open&nbsp;Source&nbsp;as&nbsp;a&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;compromise,&nbsp;but&nbsp;some&nbsp;say&nbsp;he&nbsp;has&nbsp;become&nbsp;overly&nbsp;righteous&nbsp;in&nbsp;his&nbsp;views.&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Q.&nbsp;You've&nbsp;been&nbsp;committed&nbsp;to&nbsp;free&nbsp;software&nbsp;since&nbsp;you&nbsp;joined&nbsp;the&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Massachusetts&nbsp;Institute&nbsp;of&nbsp;Technology&nbsp;(MIT)&nbsp;as&nbsp;a&nbsp;17-year-old&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;programmer&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;early&nbsp;70s.&nbsp;What&nbsp;drew&nbsp;you&nbsp;there?&nbsp;<BR>A.&nbsp;I&nbsp;was&nbsp;part&nbsp;of&nbsp;a&nbsp;70s&nbsp;sharing&nbsp;community,&nbsp;but&nbsp;I&nbsp;was&nbsp;attracted&nbsp;to&nbsp;MIT&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;because&nbsp;they&nbsp;had&nbsp;a&nbsp;powerful&nbsp;computer.&nbsp;They&nbsp;were&nbsp;looking&nbsp;for&nbsp;people&nbsp;who&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;wanted&nbsp;to&nbsp;improve&nbsp;the&nbsp;system,&nbsp;and&nbsp;as&nbsp;long&nbsp;as&nbsp;you&nbsp;were&nbsp;capable,&nbsp;they&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;were&nbsp;happy&nbsp;to&nbsp;have&nbsp;you.&nbsp;I&nbsp;felt&nbsp;this&nbsp;was&nbsp;the&nbsp;way&nbsp;it&nbsp;should&nbsp;be,&nbsp;and&nbsp;I&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;felt&nbsp;that&nbsp;the&nbsp;alternative&nbsp;was&nbsp;horrible,&nbsp;everybody&nbsp;being&nbsp;divided&nbsp;and&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;restricted&nbsp;so&nbsp;that&nbsp;somebody&nbsp;can&nbsp;make&nbsp;more&nbsp;money.&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Q.&nbsp;You&nbsp;and&nbsp;other&nbsp;programmers&nbsp;at&nbsp;the&nbsp;Free&nbsp;Software&nbsp;Foundation&nbsp;have&nbsp;been&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;working&nbsp;for&nbsp;some&nbsp;time&nbsp;on&nbsp;HURD,&nbsp;kernel&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;free&nbsp;GNU&nbsp;operating&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;system.&nbsp;How&nbsp;is&nbsp;that&nbsp;work&nbsp;progressing?&nbsp;<BR>A.&nbsp;The&nbsp;HURD&nbsp;basically&nbsp;runs;&nbsp;now&nbsp;it&nbsp;needs&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;made&nbsp;robust,&nbsp;and&nbsp;some&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;parts&nbsp;need&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;optimised.&nbsp;Also,&nbsp;the&nbsp;features&nbsp;that&nbsp;we&nbsp;envisioned&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;would&nbsp;take&nbsp;advantage&nbsp;of&nbsp;its&nbsp;power&nbsp;have&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;implemented.&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Q.&nbsp;How&nbsp;does&nbsp;GNU&nbsp;relate&nbsp;to&nbsp;Open&nbsp;Source&nbsp;software&nbsp;like&nbsp;Linux?&nbsp;<BR>A.&nbsp;Many&nbsp;people&nbsp;talk&nbsp;about&nbsp;GNU&nbsp;as&nbsp;if&nbsp;it&nbsp;were&nbsp;the&nbsp;same&nbsp;as&nbsp;Linux.&nbsp;Linux&nbsp;is&nbsp;a&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;kernel&nbsp;of&nbsp;GNU&nbsp;developed&nbsp;by&nbsp;Linus&nbsp;Torvalds,&nbsp;but&nbsp;although&nbsp;Linux&nbsp;is&nbsp;very&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;important,&nbsp;it&nbsp;is&nbsp;just&nbsp;one&nbsp;of&nbsp;several&nbsp;essential&nbsp;parts&nbsp;of&nbsp;GNU.&nbsp;At&nbsp;the&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;moment,&nbsp;one&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;dangers&nbsp;is&nbsp;drifting&nbsp;away&nbsp;from&nbsp;the&nbsp;goal.&nbsp;Torvalds&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;proposes&nbsp;world&nbsp;domination,&nbsp;by&nbsp;which&nbsp;he&nbsp;jocularly&nbsp;means&nbsp;the&nbsp;popularity&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;of&nbsp;a&nbsp;particular&nbsp;collection&nbsp;of&nbsp;software.&nbsp;In&nbsp;truth,&nbsp;this&nbsp;happens&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;more&nbsp;or&nbsp;less&nbsp;the&nbsp;GNU&nbsp;operating&nbsp;system&nbsp;that&nbsp;we&nbsp;set&nbsp;out&nbsp;to&nbsp;develop&nbsp;15&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;years&nbsp;ago.&nbsp;But&nbsp;the&nbsp;ironic&nbsp;thing&nbsp;is&nbsp;while&nbsp;Linux&nbsp;developers&nbsp;are&nbsp;focusing&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;on&nbsp;our&nbsp;job,&nbsp;it&nbsp;is&nbsp;just&nbsp;really&nbsp;a&nbsp;means&nbsp;to&nbsp;a&nbsp;more&nbsp;important&nbsp;end,&nbsp;which&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;is&nbsp;to&nbsp;have&nbsp;freedom&nbsp;and&nbsp;a&nbsp;community.&nbsp;To&nbsp;achieve&nbsp;this,&nbsp;you've&nbsp;got&nbsp;to&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;reject&nbsp;the&nbsp;software&nbsp;that&nbsp;forbids&nbsp;you&nbsp;to&nbsp;have&nbsp;those&nbsp;things.&nbsp;The&nbsp;goal&nbsp;of&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;making&nbsp;one&nbsp;particular&nbsp;collection&nbsp;of&nbsp;free&nbsp;software&nbsp;more&nbsp;popular&nbsp;by&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;combining&nbsp;it&nbsp;with&nbsp;non-free&nbsp;software,&nbsp;which&nbsp;is&nbsp;what&nbsp;they&nbsp;do,&nbsp;is&nbsp;missing&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the&nbsp;point.&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Q.&nbsp;How&nbsp;do&nbsp;you&nbsp;feel&nbsp;when&nbsp;systems&nbsp;like&nbsp;Linux&nbsp;are&nbsp;taken&nbsp;up&nbsp;for&nbsp;business&nbsp;use?&nbsp;<BR>A.&nbsp;In&nbsp;principle,&nbsp;I&nbsp;think&nbsp;it's&nbsp;good&nbsp;to&nbsp;make&nbsp;the&nbsp;combined&nbsp;GNU/Linux&nbsp;system&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;useful&nbsp;for&nbsp;business.&nbsp;Free&nbsp;software&nbsp;should&nbsp;be&nbsp;for&nbsp;everyone,&nbsp;and&nbsp;that&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;includes&nbsp;business&nbsp;people.&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Q.&nbsp;How&nbsp;do&nbsp;you&nbsp;feel&nbsp;about&nbsp;Open&nbsp;Source&nbsp;firms&nbsp;making&nbsp;millions&nbsp;through&nbsp;public&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;offerings?&nbsp;<BR>A.&nbsp;I&nbsp;wish&nbsp;these&nbsp;companies&nbsp;were&nbsp;making&nbsp;the&nbsp;same&nbsp;millions&nbsp;without&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;distributing&nbsp;any&nbsp;non-free,&nbsp;user-subjugating&nbsp;software.&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Q.&nbsp;At&nbsp;the&nbsp;moment,&nbsp;there&nbsp;are&nbsp;many&nbsp;gaps&nbsp;in&nbsp;what&nbsp;commercial&nbsp;software&nbsp;does.&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;How&nbsp;can&nbsp;free&nbsp;software&nbsp;fill&nbsp;those&nbsp;gaps?&nbsp;<BR>A.&nbsp;Please&nbsp;don't&nbsp;think&nbsp;of&nbsp;'free'&nbsp;and&nbsp;'commercial'&nbsp;as&nbsp;alternatives.&nbsp;They&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;deal&nbsp;with&nbsp;different&nbsp;issues.&nbsp;A&nbsp;program&nbsp;can&nbsp;be&nbsp;commercial,&nbsp;academic,&nbsp;or&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;avocational;&nbsp;it&nbsp;can&nbsp;be&nbsp;free&nbsp;or&nbsp;proprietary.&nbsp;There&nbsp;is&nbsp;commercial&nbsp;free&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;software,&nbsp;and&nbsp;there&nbsp;is&nbsp;non-commercial,&nbsp;non-free&nbsp;software.&nbsp;As&nbsp;far&nbsp;as&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;we're&nbsp;concerned,&nbsp;a&nbsp;non-free&nbsp;program&nbsp;is&nbsp;a&nbsp;gap.&nbsp;You&nbsp;can&nbsp;only&nbsp;use&nbsp;it&nbsp;by&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;giving&nbsp;up&nbsp;your&nbsp;freedom,&nbsp;and&nbsp;that&nbsp;we&nbsp;will&nbsp;not&nbsp;do.&nbsp;Our&nbsp;aim&nbsp;is&nbsp;to&nbsp;make&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;free&nbsp;software&nbsp;do&nbsp;every&nbsp;useful&nbsp;job.&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Q.&nbsp;What&nbsp;are&nbsp;your&nbsp;views&nbsp;on&nbsp;the&nbsp;Microsoft&nbsp;trial&nbsp;results&nbsp;so&nbsp;far?&nbsp;<BR>A.&nbsp;Microsoft&nbsp;is&nbsp;just&nbsp;one&nbsp;of&nbsp;many&nbsp;companies&nbsp;that&nbsp;develop&nbsp;non-free&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;software.&nbsp;Instead&nbsp;of&nbsp;letting&nbsp;one&nbsp;specific&nbsp;company&nbsp;hold&nbsp;our&nbsp;attention,&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;we&nbsp;should&nbsp;focus&nbsp;on&nbsp;the&nbsp;major&nbsp;issue:&nbsp;whether&nbsp;or&nbsp;not&nbsp;software&nbsp;respects&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;our&nbsp;freedom.&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Q.&nbsp;Do&nbsp;you&nbsp;get&nbsp;downhearted?&nbsp;<BR>A.&nbsp;No,&nbsp;because&nbsp;we&nbsp;have&nbsp;done&nbsp;a&nbsp;lot&nbsp;more&nbsp;than&nbsp;a&nbsp;lot&nbsp;of&nbsp;people&nbsp;ever&nbsp;thought&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;we&nbsp;would.&nbsp;People&nbsp;tend&nbsp;to&nbsp;dismiss&nbsp;idealism&nbsp;as&nbsp;impractical,&nbsp;which&nbsp;is&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;strange,&nbsp;because&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;long&nbsp;term,&nbsp;idealism&nbsp;is&nbsp;the&nbsp;most&nbsp;practical&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;course&nbsp;of&nbsp;all.&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>======End=============&nbsp;<BR>--&nbsp;<BR>|======================+========================+====================|&nbsp;<BR>|&nbsp;以无法为有法&nbsp;，&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;拳本无法，有法也空；&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;我爱GNU/Linux,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;<BR>|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;以无限为有限&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;一法不立，无法不容。|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;因为我爱自由！&nbsp;|&nbsp;<BR>|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;<BR>|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;截拳道宗师-李小龙&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;意拳宗师-王芗斋&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;土人&nb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