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<TITLE>BBS水木清华站∶精华区</TITLE></HEAD><BODY><CENTER><H1>BBS水木清华站∶精华区</H1></CENTER>发信人:&nbsp;linuxrat&nbsp;(竹剑居士*打回原形),&nbsp;信区:&nbsp;Linux&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>标&nbsp;&nbsp;题:&nbsp;Linus关于域名当中使用&quot;Linux&quot;的建议[FWD]&nbsp;<BR>发信站:&nbsp;BBS&nbsp;水木清华站&nbsp;(Thu&nbsp;Jan&nbsp;20&nbsp;10:34:53&nbsp;2000)&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;看来是这个法律问题让Linus&nbsp;Torvalds先生头疼了.&nbsp;问的太多了,&nbsp;烦!&nbsp;//sigh&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;URL:&nbsp;linuxtoday.com&nbsp;<BR>========Begin=============&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Linus&nbsp;Torvalds:&nbsp;Using&nbsp;&quot;linux&quot;&nbsp;in&nbsp;a&nbsp;domain&nbsp;name&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Jan&nbsp;19,&nbsp;2000,&nbsp;16:25&nbsp;UTC&nbsp;(12&nbsp;Talkbacks)&nbsp;(Other&nbsp;stories&nbsp;by&nbsp;Linus&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Torvalds)&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;From&nbsp;a&nbsp;posting&nbsp;by&nbsp;Linus&nbsp;on&nbsp;the&nbsp;Linux-Kernel&nbsp;mailing&nbsp;list:&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Re:&nbsp;Using&nbsp;&quot;linux&quot;&nbsp;in&nbsp;a&nbsp;domain&nbsp;name&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Date:&nbsp;Tue,&nbsp;18&nbsp;Jan&nbsp;2000&nbsp;20:28:45&nbsp;-0800&nbsp;(PST)&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;From:&nbsp;Linus&nbsp;Torvalds&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;To:&nbsp;&quot;Eric&nbsp;A.&nbsp;Stephens&quot;&nbsp;,&nbsp;Tony&nbsp;Zafiropoulos&nbsp;,&nbsp;&quot;Jaron&nbsp;J.&nbsp;Rubenstein&quot;&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Cc:&nbsp;Kernel&nbsp;Mailing&nbsp;List&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;[&nbsp;sorry&nbsp;for&nbsp;the&nbsp;off-topic&nbsp;thing&nbsp;to&nbsp;&quot;linux-kernel&quot;,&nbsp;it's&nbsp;just&nbsp;the&nbsp;best&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;medium&nbsp;I&nbsp;can&nbsp;think&nbsp;off&nbsp;off-hand&nbsp;]&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Ok,&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I've&nbsp;been&nbsp;getting&nbsp;tons&nbsp;of&nbsp;email&nbsp;about&nbsp;the&nbsp;trademark&nbsp;thing&nbsp;due&nbsp;to&nbsp;the&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;action&nbsp;of&nbsp;stopping&nbsp;the&nbsp;auctioning&nbsp;off&nbsp;of&nbsp;linux-related&nbsp;names,&nbsp;so&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;instead&nbsp;of&nbsp;just&nbsp;answering&nbsp;individually&nbsp;(which&nbsp;was&nbsp;how&nbsp;I&nbsp;started&nbsp;out),&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I'll&nbsp;just&nbsp;send&nbsp;out&nbsp;a&nbsp;more&nbsp;generic&nbsp;email.&nbsp;And&nbsp;hope&nbsp;that&nbsp;slashdot&nbsp;etc&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;pick&nbsp;it&nbsp;up&nbsp;so&nbsp;that&nbsp;enough&nbsp;people&nbsp;will&nbsp;be&nbsp;reassured&nbsp;or&nbsp;at&nbsp;least&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;understand&nbsp;the&nbsp;issues.&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;And&nbsp;hey,&nbsp;you&nbsp;may&nbsp;not&nbsp;end&nbsp;up&nbsp;agreeing&nbsp;with&nbsp;me,&nbsp;but&nbsp;with&nbsp;the&nbsp;transmeta&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;announcement&nbsp;tomorrow&nbsp;I&nbsp;won't&nbsp;have&nbsp;much&nbsp;time&nbsp;to&nbsp;argue&nbsp;about&nbsp;it&nbsp;until&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;next&nbsp;week&nbsp;;)&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Basically,&nbsp;the&nbsp;rules&nbsp;are&nbsp;fairly&nbsp;simple,&nbsp;and&nbsp;there&nbsp;really&nbsp;are&nbsp;just&nbsp;a&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;few&nbsp;simple&nbsp;basic&nbsp;issues&nbsp;involved:&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-&nbsp;I&nbsp;(and&nbsp;obviously&nbsp;a&nbsp;lot&nbsp;of&nbsp;other&nbsp;people)&nbsp;do&nbsp;not&nbsp;want&nbsp;to&nbsp;have&nbsp;&quot;Linux&quot;&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;as&nbsp;a&nbsp;name&nbsp;associated&nbsp;with&nbsp;unacceptable&nbsp;(or&nbsp;borderline)&nbsp;behaviour,&nbsp;and&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;it's&nbsp;important&nbsp;that&nbsp;&quot;Linux&quot;&nbsp;doesn't&nbsp;get&nbsp;a&nbsp;name&nbsp;of&nbsp;being&nbsp;associated&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;with&nbsp;scams,&nbsp;cybersquatting,&nbsp;etc&nbsp;etc.&nbsp;I'd&nbsp;personally&nbsp;hate&nbsp;that,&nbsp;for&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;rather&nbsp;obvious&nbsp;reasons.&nbsp;I&nbsp;_like_&nbsp;being&nbsp;proud&nbsp;of&nbsp;Linux,&nbsp;and&nbsp;what&nbsp;has&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;been&nbsp;achieved.&nbsp;I'd&nbsp;rather&nbsp;not&nbsp;have&nbsp;to&nbsp;apologize&nbsp;for&nbsp;it..&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-&nbsp;Trademark&nbsp;law&nbsp;requires&nbsp;that&nbsp;the&nbsp;trademark&nbsp;owner&nbsp;police&nbsp;the&nbsp;use&nbsp;of&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the&nbsp;trademark&nbsp;(unlike,&nbsp;for&nbsp;example,&nbsp;copyright&nbsp;law,&nbsp;where&nbsp;the&nbsp;copyright&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;owner&nbsp;is&nbsp;the&nbsp;copyright&nbsp;owner,&nbsp;always&nbsp;is,&nbsp;and&nbsp;always&nbsp;will&nbsp;be&nbsp;unless&nbsp;he&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;willingly&nbsp;relinquishes&nbsp;ownership,&nbsp;and&nbsp;even&nbsp;THEN&nbsp;he&nbsp;ends&nbsp;up&nbsp;having&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;rights).&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;This&nbsp;is&nbsp;nasty,&nbsp;because&nbsp;it&nbsp;means,&nbsp;for&nbsp;example,&nbsp;that&nbsp;a&nbsp;trademark&nbsp;owner&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;has&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;shown&nbsp;as&nbsp;caring&nbsp;about&nbsp;even&nbsp;small&nbsp;infringements,&nbsp;because&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;otherwise&nbsp;the&nbsp;really&nbsp;bad&nbsp;guys&nbsp;can&nbsp;use&nbsp;as&nbsp;their&nbsp;defense&nbsp;that&nbsp;&quot;hey,&nbsp;we&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;may&nbsp;have&nbsp;misused&nbsp;it,&nbsp;but&nbsp;look&nbsp;at&nbsp;those&nbsp;other&nbsp;cases&nbsp;that&nbsp;they&nbsp;didn't&nbsp;go&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;after,&nbsp;they&nbsp;obviously&nbsp;don't&nbsp;care..&quot;&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-&nbsp;Even&nbsp;with&nbsp;things&nbsp;that&nbsp;aren't&nbsp;scams&nbsp;or&nbsp;something&nbsp;like&nbsp;that,&nbsp;VALID&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;uses&nbsp;of&nbsp;&quot;Linux&quot;&nbsp;may&nbsp;be&nbsp;bad&nbsp;if&nbsp;they&nbsp;mean&nbsp;that&nbsp;other&nbsp;valid&nbsp;uses&nbsp;of&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&quot;Linux&quot;&nbsp;are&nbsp;blocked.&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Those&nbsp;are&nbsp;the&nbsp;kind&nbsp;of&nbsp;ground&nbsp;rules,&nbsp;I&nbsp;think&nbsp;everybody&nbsp;can&nbsp;pretty&nbsp;much&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;agree&nbsp;with&nbsp;them..&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;What&nbsp;the&nbsp;above&nbsp;leads&nbsp;to&nbsp;is&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-&nbsp;I'm&nbsp;required&nbsp;to&nbsp;ask&nbsp;people&nbsp;to&nbsp;acknowledge&nbsp;the&nbsp;trademark.&nbsp;When&nbsp;you&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;use&nbsp;the&nbsp;term&nbsp;&quot;Linux&quot;&nbsp;in&nbsp;official&nbsp;marketing&nbsp;literature&nbsp;etc,&nbsp;you&nbsp;should&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;acknowledge&nbsp;it&nbsp;as&nbsp;a&nbsp;trademark&nbsp;owned&nbsp;by&nbsp;me.&nbsp;Not&nbsp;because&nbsp;I&nbsp;love&nbsp;seeing&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;my&nbsp;name&nbsp;in&nbsp;print,&nbsp;but&nbsp;simply&nbsp;because&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;&quot;policing&quot;&nbsp;issue&nbsp;(#2)&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;above.&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(And&nbsp;no,&nbsp;that&nbsp;does&nbsp;NOT&nbsp;mean&nbsp;that&nbsp;you&nbsp;have&nbsp;to&nbsp;add&nbsp;that&nbsp;to&nbsp;normal,&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;everyday&nbsp;use&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;term.&nbsp;Common&nbsp;sense&nbsp;rules&nbsp;the&nbsp;day,&nbsp;think&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;situations&nbsp;where&nbsp;you&nbsp;see&nbsp;the&nbsp;silly&nbsp;&quot;xxxx&nbsp;is&nbsp;a&nbsp;trademark&nbsp;of&nbsp;yyyy&quot;,&nbsp;and&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;realize&nbsp;that&nbsp;yyyy&nbsp;may&nbsp;not&nbsp;really&nbsp;care&nbsp;except&nbsp;the&nbsp;legal&nbsp;issues&nbsp;force&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;them&nbsp;to&nbsp;;)&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-&nbsp;_Intent_&nbsp;matters.&nbsp;It&nbsp;matters&nbsp;a&nbsp;lot.&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;If&nbsp;your&nbsp;intent&nbsp;is&nbsp;to&nbsp;use&nbsp;the&nbsp;word&nbsp;&quot;linux&quot;&nbsp;as&nbsp;part&nbsp;of&nbsp;a&nbsp;real&nbsp;Linux&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;project,&nbsp;that&nbsp;doesn't&nbsp;mean&nbsp;that&nbsp;you&nbsp;automatically&nbsp;absolutely&nbsp;have&nbsp;to&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;get&nbsp;permission&nbsp;from&nbsp;me.&nbsp;That's&nbsp;the&nbsp;LAST&nbsp;thing&nbsp;I&nbsp;want.&nbsp;I&nbsp;want&nbsp;&quot;Linux&quot;&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;as&nbsp;free&nbsp;as&nbsp;possible&nbsp;as&nbsp;a&nbsp;term,&nbsp;and&nbsp;the&nbsp;real&nbsp;reason&nbsp;for&nbsp;having&nbsp;a&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;trademark&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;first&nbsp;place&nbsp;was&nbsp;to&nbsp;_protect_&nbsp;it&nbsp;rather&nbsp;than&nbsp;use&nbsp;it&nbsp;as&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;some&nbsp;kind&nbsp;of&nbsp;legalistic&nbsp;enforcement&nbsp;thing.&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;But,&nbsp;for&nbsp;example,&nbsp;if&nbsp;your&nbsp;intent&nbsp;is&nbsp;to&nbsp;register&nbsp;&quot;mylinux.com&quot;&nbsp;(made&nbsp;up&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;example,&nbsp;I&nbsp;don't&nbsp;know&nbsp;if&nbsp;it&nbsp;is&nbsp;registered&nbsp;or&nbsp;not)&nbsp;only&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;hopes&nbsp;of&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;selling&nbsp;the&nbsp;domain&nbsp;name&nbsp;for&nbsp;mucho&nbsp;dinero&nbsp;later,&nbsp;then&nbsp;that&nbsp;kind&nbsp;of&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;intent&nbsp;is&nbsp;not&nbsp;something&nbsp;I&nbsp;(or&nbsp;anybody&nbsp;else,&nbsp;I&nbsp;think)&nbsp;would&nbsp;find&nbsp;really&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;acceptable,&nbsp;because&nbsp;now&nbsp;the&nbsp;use&nbsp;of&nbsp;&quot;linux&quot;&nbsp;in&nbsp;this&nbsp;case&nbsp;has&nbsp;really&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;been&nbsp;a&nbsp;question&nbsp;of&nbsp;blocking&nbsp;somebody&nbsp;ELSE&nbsp;from&nbsp;using&nbsp;the&nbsp;term&nbsp;and&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;using&nbsp;it&nbsp;to&nbsp;get&nbsp;money.&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;This&nbsp;is&nbsp;where&nbsp;the&nbsp;cybersquatting&nbsp;laws&nbsp;come&nbsp;in,&nbsp;for&nbsp;example,&nbsp;allowing&nbsp;<BR>

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