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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Mattis:&nbsp;From&nbsp;personal&nbsp;experience,&nbsp;I'd&nbsp;say&nbsp;that&nbsp;90&nbsp;to&nbsp;95&nbsp;percent&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
time&nbsp;that&nbsp;I
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;worked&nbsp;on&nbsp;Gtk&nbsp;and&nbsp;the&nbsp;Gimp&nbsp;was&nbsp;personal&nbsp;time.&nbsp;The&nbsp;other&nbsp;5&nbsp;to&nbsp;10&nbsp;percent&nbsp;of&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
the
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;time&nbsp;was&nbsp;stolen&nbsp;from&nbsp;part-time&nbsp;jobs&nbsp;--&nbsp;shhh!&nbsp;--&nbsp;or&nbsp;done&nbsp;for&nbsp;a&nbsp;few&nbsp;college&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
credits.&nbsp;I
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;guess&nbsp;most&nbsp;of&nbsp;my&nbsp;time&nbsp;fits&nbsp;into&nbsp;the&nbsp;&quot;other&quot;&nbsp;category&nbsp;with&nbsp;a&nbsp;small&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
percentage&nbsp;being
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;blessed&nbsp;by&nbsp;the&nbsp;university.&nbsp;
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;LinuxWorld:&nbsp;It&nbsp;seems&nbsp;likely&nbsp;that&nbsp;you&nbsp;both&nbsp;would&nbsp;have&nbsp;been&nbsp;offered&nbsp;jobs&nbsp;in&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
the&nbsp;Linux
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;community.&nbsp;Why&nbsp;didn't&nbsp;you&nbsp;take&nbsp;any&nbsp;of&nbsp;them&nbsp;or&nbsp;create&nbsp;your&nbsp;own&nbsp;business&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
centered
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;around&nbsp;Gimp?&nbsp;
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Mattis:&nbsp;I&nbsp;wanted&nbsp;to&nbsp;explore&nbsp;other&nbsp;areas&nbsp;of&nbsp;programming&nbsp;besides&nbsp;graphics.&nbsp;
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I&nbsp;felt&nbsp;I&nbsp;had&nbsp;&quot;done&nbsp;my&nbsp;duty&quot;&nbsp;for&nbsp;free&nbsp;software&nbsp;and&nbsp;wanted&nbsp;to&nbsp;move&nbsp;into&nbsp;the&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
commercial
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;sector&nbsp;to&nbsp;see&nbsp;what&nbsp;it&nbsp;was&nbsp;like.&nbsp;
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I&nbsp;still&nbsp;have&nbsp;the&nbsp;opportunity&nbsp;to&nbsp;take&nbsp;a&nbsp;job&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;Linux&nbsp;community&nbsp;if&nbsp;I&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
want.&nbsp;That&nbsp;bridge
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;has&nbsp;not&nbsp;been&nbsp;burned.&nbsp;
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I&nbsp;still&nbsp;have&nbsp;the&nbsp;opportunity&nbsp;to&nbsp;create&nbsp;a&nbsp;business&nbsp;centered&nbsp;around&nbsp;the&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
Gimp.&nbsp;It&nbsp;just
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;wasn't&nbsp;something&nbsp;I&nbsp;wanted&nbsp;to&nbsp;do&nbsp;immediately&nbsp;after&nbsp;leaving&nbsp;school.&nbsp;The&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
biggest
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;reason&nbsp;being&nbsp;that&nbsp;I&nbsp;don't&nbsp;feel&nbsp;I'm&nbsp;qualified&nbsp;to&nbsp;run&nbsp;such&nbsp;a&nbsp;business&nbsp;and&nbsp;I&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
wouldn't&nbsp;want
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;to&nbsp;let&nbsp;someone&nbsp;else&nbsp;run&nbsp;it&nbsp;either.&nbsp;
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Kimball:&nbsp;Although&nbsp;Gimp&nbsp;was&nbsp;probably&nbsp;my&nbsp;most&nbsp;enjoyable&nbsp;pursuit&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;past&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
four
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;years,&nbsp;even&nbsp;it&nbsp;lost&nbsp;some&nbsp;of&nbsp;its&nbsp;appeal&nbsp;with&nbsp;time.&nbsp;As&nbsp;for&nbsp;other&nbsp;jobs&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
Linux
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;community:&nbsp;I'd&nbsp;gladly&nbsp;have&nbsp;taken&nbsp;one&nbsp;if&nbsp;it&nbsp;could&nbsp;offer&nbsp;reasonable&nbsp;upside.&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>

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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;LinuxWorld:&nbsp;Would&nbsp;you&nbsp;like&nbsp;to&nbsp;say&nbsp;anything&nbsp;about&nbsp;WilberWorks?&nbsp;
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Kimball:&nbsp;I&nbsp;hope&nbsp;they&nbsp;do&nbsp;well.&nbsp;It's&nbsp;flattering&nbsp;to&nbsp;have&nbsp;a&nbsp;company&nbsp;which&nbsp;came&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
into
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;existence&nbsp;to&nbsp;support&nbsp;a&nbsp;product&nbsp;you&nbsp;created...even&nbsp;if&nbsp;it&nbsp;is&nbsp;to&nbsp;fix&nbsp;your&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
buggy&nbsp;code.&nbsp;
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;LinuxWorld:&nbsp;Peter,&nbsp;you&nbsp;earlier&nbsp;mentioned&nbsp;&quot;purely&nbsp;selfish&nbsp;reasons&quot;&nbsp;as&nbsp;an&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
important
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;part&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;recipe&nbsp;for&nbsp;a&nbsp;successful&nbsp;project.&nbsp;It&nbsp;would&nbsp;have&nbsp;been&nbsp;very,&nbsp;very&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
nice,&nbsp;from
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the&nbsp;purely&nbsp;selfish&nbsp;perspectives&nbsp;of&nbsp;many&nbsp;eager&nbsp;Gimp&nbsp;users,&nbsp;if&nbsp;you&nbsp;and&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
Spencer&nbsp;had
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;waited&nbsp;until&nbsp;after&nbsp;the&nbsp;Gimp&nbsp;1.0&nbsp;release&nbsp;to&nbsp;take&nbsp;other&nbsp;jobs.&nbsp;
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I'm&nbsp;wondering&nbsp;if&nbsp;there&nbsp;might&nbsp;have&nbsp;been&nbsp;a&nbsp;magic&nbsp;conduit&nbsp;through&nbsp;which&nbsp;the&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
gratitude
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;open&nbsp;source&nbsp;community&nbsp;could&nbsp;have&nbsp;been&nbsp;transformed&nbsp;into&nbsp;reasons&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
&quot;purely
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;selfish&quot;&nbsp;enough&nbsp;to&nbsp;make&nbsp;you&nbsp;stick&nbsp;around&nbsp;a&nbsp;little&nbsp;bit&nbsp;longer.&nbsp;What&nbsp;would&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
have
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;worked&nbsp;to&nbsp;retain&nbsp;your&nbsp;skills&nbsp;for&nbsp;Gimp&nbsp;(or&nbsp;other&nbsp;open&nbsp;source&nbsp;projects)?&nbsp;
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Mattis:&nbsp;I'm&nbsp;really&nbsp;not&nbsp;sure&nbsp;what&nbsp;it&nbsp;would&nbsp;have&nbsp;taken.&nbsp;Hell,&nbsp;if&nbsp;the&nbsp;timing&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
had&nbsp;been
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;different&nbsp;I&nbsp;might&nbsp;have&nbsp;gone&nbsp;to&nbsp;work&nbsp;at&nbsp;RHAD&nbsp;Labs.&nbsp;They&nbsp;just&nbsp;happened&nbsp;to&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
offer&nbsp;me
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;a&nbsp;job&nbsp;after&nbsp;I&nbsp;had&nbsp;taken&nbsp;a&nbsp;job&nbsp;at&nbsp;Inktomi.&nbsp;I&nbsp;think&nbsp;it&nbsp;is&nbsp;important&nbsp;for&nbsp;a&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
job&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;free
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;software&nbsp;community&nbsp;to&nbsp;provide&nbsp;an&nbsp;equivalent&nbsp;compensation&nbsp;to&nbsp;a&nbsp;job&nbsp;in&nbsp;the
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;commercial&nbsp;world.&nbsp;That&nbsp;means&nbsp;salary&nbsp;and&nbsp;stock&nbsp;options&nbsp;and&nbsp;benefits.&nbsp;
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Kimball:&nbsp;Your&nbsp;implied&nbsp;question&nbsp;is:&nbsp;how&nbsp;can&nbsp;the&nbsp;OSS&nbsp;movement&nbsp;retain&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
high-yield
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;individuals&nbsp;who&nbsp;eventually&nbsp;move&nbsp;on&nbsp;to&nbsp;lucrative&nbsp;jobs&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;commercial&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
sector?&nbsp;I
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;don't&nbsp;know&nbsp;a&nbsp;good&nbsp;answer&nbsp;to&nbsp;that&nbsp;question.&nbsp;It&nbsp;obviously&nbsp;depends&nbsp;on&nbsp;the&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
individual
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;and&nbsp;their&nbsp;personal&nbsp;career&nbsp;goals.&nbsp;After&nbsp;school&nbsp;was&nbsp;done,&nbsp;I&nbsp;was&nbsp;far&nbsp;more&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
interested
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;in&nbsp;pursuing&nbsp;a&nbsp;career&nbsp;which&nbsp;diverged&nbsp;from&nbsp;hacking,&nbsp;making&nbsp;it&nbsp;unlikely&nbsp;that&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
I&nbsp;could
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;have&nbsp;been&nbsp;persuaded&nbsp;to&nbsp;continue&nbsp;Gimp&nbsp;work.&nbsp;However,&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;time&nbsp;that&nbsp;has
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;passed,&nbsp;I've&nbsp;followed&nbsp;Gimp&nbsp;progress&nbsp;closely,&nbsp;and&nbsp;have&nbsp;been&nbsp;steadily&nbsp;at&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
work&nbsp;on&nbsp;the
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Online&nbsp;PhotoLab.&nbsp;
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;LinuxWorld:&nbsp;What&nbsp;would&nbsp;you&nbsp;consider&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;the
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ideal&nbsp;relationship&nbsp;between&nbsp;the&nbsp;open&nbsp;source
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;community&nbsp;and&nbsp;money?&nbsp;How&nbsp;would&nbsp;you&nbsp;like&nbsp;to
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;influence&nbsp;the&nbsp;community's&nbsp;balance&nbsp;of&nbsp;idealism
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;and&nbsp;pragmatism?&nbsp;How&nbsp;you&nbsp;think&nbsp;the&nbsp;open&nbsp;source
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;economy&nbsp;should&nbsp;work?&nbsp;
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Kimball:&nbsp;From&nbsp;the&nbsp;first&nbsp;line&nbsp;of&nbsp;source&nbsp;code&nbsp;to&nbsp;the
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;last,&nbsp;Gimp&nbsp;was&nbsp;always&nbsp;my&nbsp;&quot;dues&quot;&nbsp;paid&nbsp;to&nbsp;the&nbsp;free
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;software&nbsp;movement.&nbsp;After&nbsp;years&nbsp;of&nbsp;using&nbsp;emacs,
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;gcc,&nbsp;Linux,&nbsp;etcetera,&nbsp;I&nbsp;really&nbsp;felt&nbsp;that&nbsp;I&nbsp;owed&nbsp;a&nbsp;debt
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;to&nbsp;the&nbsp;community&nbsp;which&nbsp;had,&nbsp;to&nbsp;a&nbsp;large&nbsp;degree,&nbsp;shaped&nbsp;my&nbsp;computing
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;development.&nbsp;
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Mattis:&nbsp;My&nbsp;view&nbsp;of&nbsp;free&nbsp;software&nbsp;has&nbsp;always&nbsp;been&nbsp;that&nbsp;you&nbsp;don't&nbsp;need&nbsp;to&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
make&nbsp;it
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;your&nbsp;life's&nbsp;work.&nbsp;I&nbsp;may&nbsp;never&nbsp;work&nbsp;on&nbsp;free&nbsp;software&nbsp;again,&nbsp;but&nbsp;I've&nbsp;still&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
contributed
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;dramatically.&nbsp;If&nbsp;the&nbsp;free&nbsp;software&nbsp;world&nbsp;can&nbsp;keep&nbsp;using&nbsp;the&nbsp;college&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
students&nbsp;and
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;graduate&nbsp;students&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;world,&nbsp;then&nbsp;I&nbsp;don't&nbsp;see&nbsp;a&nbsp;huge&nbsp;need&nbsp;for&nbsp;lifelong&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
free
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;software&nbsp;programmers.&nbsp;
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I&nbsp;think&nbsp;I&nbsp;like&nbsp;what&nbsp;Red&nbsp;Hat&nbsp;is&nbsp;doing&nbsp;in&nbsp;subsidizing&nbsp;some&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;free&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
software
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;development.&nbsp;As&nbsp;far&nbsp;as&nbsp;I&nbsp;know,&nbsp;they&nbsp;have&nbsp;Alan&nbsp;Cox&nbsp;on&nbsp;the&nbsp;payroll&nbsp;so&nbsp;that&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
he&nbsp;can
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;use&nbsp;his&nbsp;time&nbsp;as&nbsp;he&nbsp;sees&nbsp;fit&nbsp;to&nbsp;do&nbsp;kernel&nbsp;development.&nbsp;And&nbsp;there&nbsp;are&nbsp;a&nbsp;host&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
of
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Gnome&nbsp;folks&nbsp;at&nbsp;RHAD&nbsp;Labs.&nbsp;I&nbsp;like&nbsp;that.&nbsp;
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Discuss&nbsp;this&nbsp;article&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;LinuxWorld&nbsp;forums&nbsp;(2&nbsp;&nbsp;postings)
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;About&nbsp;the&nbsp;author
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Stig&nbsp;Hackv鋘&nbsp;is&nbsp;an&nbsp;open&nbsp;source&nbsp;developer&nbsp;who&nbsp;has&nbsp;served&nbsp;as&nbsp;a&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
core
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;XEmacs&nbsp;developer&nbsp;and&nbsp;has&nbsp;been&nbsp;an&nbsp;active&nbsp;participant&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
Linux
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;community&nbsp;since&nbsp;before&nbsp;the&nbsp;1.0&nbsp;kernel.&nbsp;Currently,&nbsp;Stig&nbsp;is&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
writing&nbsp;a&nbsp;book&nbsp;on
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;open&nbsp;source&nbsp;licensing,&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;published&nbsp;by&nbsp;O'Reilly&nbsp;&amp;&nbsp;Associates&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
this&nbsp;spring.&nbsp;<BR>
--&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;白马带著她一步步的回到中原。白马已经老了，只能慢慢的走，&nbsp;<BR>
但终是能回到中原的。江南有杨柳、桃花，有燕子、金鱼……&nbsp;<BR>
汉人中有的是英俊勇武的少年，倜傥潇洒的少年……但这个美&nbsp;<BR>
丽的姑娘就像古高昌国人那样固执:&nbsp;<BR>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;「那都是很好很好的，可是我偏不喜欢。」&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
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