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his opinion that the ideal would be that all software was released <BR> under the GPL. Personally I support the use of the LGPL on libraries <BR> due to the principal view that people should choose to release their <BR> software under the GPL because it is the right thing to do, not <BR> because the library license 'forces' them. (A logic with some <BR> weaknesses, but still.) <BR> My point here is that I don't expect everybody to agree with GNU and <BR> Stallman on every detail, I don't, but I do expect that everybody who <BR> enjoys using Linux, respect and acknowledge the irreplaceable role <BR> that GNU has played and continues to play in the Linux community <BR> <BR> (Author: This article has been slightly altered from its original <BR> published format based on feedback recieved.) <BR> <BR> Published November 25, 1999 <BR> [ Reply to this item ] [ Flat Mode ] <BR> _________________________________________________________________ <BR> 然后看看读后感.... <BR>----------------------------- <BR> GNU/Linux <BR> extrasolar Nov 25 at 04:21 PM <BR> I have been getting to the point where it really doesn't matter which <BR> you call the OS, GNU/Linux or Linux. I usually call it GNU/Linux, <BR> mostly to recognize that an OS is more than its kernal. But it isn't <BR> really important I don't think. I just hope people remember what GNU <BR> is, a completely free operating system that makes Linux, free <BR> software, and open source possible right now. GNU has earned a <BR> significant amount of respect and it saddens me when people denounce <BR> GNU's significance. <BR> If people keep in mind what GNU is for and what it has done, then you <BR> can call the operating system BananaOS if you want. <BR> [ Reply to this ] <BR> ____________________________________________________ <BR> <BR> GNU+Linux, Communism, Open Source <BR> Leon Brooks Nov 25 at 08:31 PM <BR> > These attacks range from people claiming that GNU is trying <BR> > to steal the glory from Linus Torvalds when they promote <BR> > Linux being called GNU/Linux <BR> I prefer GNU+Linux, as it's more descriptive (not implying that <BR> FSF/GNU _wrote_ Linux, but underscoring how much Linux leans on GNU by <BR> placing GNU first and Linux as an addition). This simple change would <BR> mollify many of the whingers. <BR> HERD could safely be described as GNU/HERD or just GNU HERD. <BR> > Many system tools and commands like grep, ls and find are also <BR> > of GNU origin, at least in their current incarnation. <BR> That's a pretty weak qualifier. How about amending it to: "Most Linux <BR> system tools and commands, like grep, ls and find, are GNU <BR> reimplementations, and have almost universally been extended in some <BR> way by the GNU people." <BR> > Now over to the detractors who claim that GNU is communistic or <BR> > anti-business. This is also as wrong as it can be. <BR> Is it? Anti-business, no, but the core individual in GNU/FSF is <BR> Richard Stallman, who is unashamedly Communist (not the Russian or <BR> Chinese implementations, the core issue: "from each according to his <BR> ability, to each according to their need") in his outlook. <BR> I'm not a Communist (nor do I think that workable Communism will <BR> happen in this world on any serious scale since it requires a special <BR> kind of person to work - but practically any other system <BR> (dictatorship, republic, anarchy) will work just as well with these <BR> special kind of people), but I do think there is a useful place for <BR> Communism and Communists in this world. <BR> To respond by saying "hey, they do business too" is barking up the <BR> wrong tree. IMHO (-: the correct response is: "They are very much pro <BR> business, but very anti red-in-tooth-and-claw competition. Some people <BR> have trouble making the distinction." <BR> > A few people seem to forget, that just as important as the fact <BR> > that the GNU licenses keep the source code available, is the <BR> > principle of copyleft that they embody. This in contrast to the <BR> > new 'Open Source' licenses which try to reintroduce copyright <BR> > as a big problem in Linux software development. <BR> An important core point, and well put! <BR> [ Reply to this ] <BR> * Re: GNU+Linux, Communism, Open Source by Marko Gr鰊roos on <BR> 1999-11-25 21:45:59 <BR> ____________________________________________________ <BR> <BR> GNU/Linux <BR> Levi Nov 25 at 10:38 PM <BR> <A HREF="http://top.monad.net/~levi/">http://top.monad.net/~levi/</A> <BR> I've never liked the movement to call Linux GNU/Linux. sure, the FSF <BR> wrote a lot of system utilities, but HURD is just barely crawling to a <BR> start now. Now, don't get me wrong, I have tons of <BR> respect for Richard Stallman and crew.I GPL any software I write that <BR> I can (ie I didn't right it under contract) and use gcc to compile it <BR> (if it's in c). I use GNU software every day and am quite <BR> grateful, but Linux is Linus' Un*x and RMS should respect that and <BR> back off. If anyone asks me what OS I run, I will usually just say <BR> "Debian". If they ask what that is, I tell them that it's a Linux <BR> distribution. The only reason I could think of to use the term <BR> GNU/Linux is if a distro ever apperars that *dosn't* use the FSF's <BR> tools (Mabey the fabeled Micro$oft disribution? :-P ). Besides, trying <BR> to say (and this is the short version) <BR> "GNU/BSD/XFree86/Perl/Netscape/Linux" is a real pain and dosn't really <BR> help matters any. <BR> -Levi <BR> [ Reply to this ] <BR> ____________________________________________________ <BR> <BR> Please don't distort history <BR> David Kastrup Nov 26 at 01:47 AM <BR> You wrote: Another valid point to remember here is that it was Linus <BR> who adjusted his kernel to work <BR> with the GNU system not the other way around. <BR> This is giving a false impression. Linus did *not* adjust the kernel <BR> to work with the GNU system. He worked very hard to make Linux adhere <BR> to standards, both explicit (like Posix and, what was it, X/Open or <BR> so?) and implicit (a bit of BSD and AT&T, just as was convenient). <BR> Consequently, GNU tools (which are written to be very portable and <BR> standard-compliant, too) combined very nicely with Linux, with only <BR>
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