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Network Working Group                                          R. BrettRequest for Comments: 2436                              Nortel NetworksCategory: Informational                                      S. Bradner                                                     Harvard University                                                             G. Parsons                                                        Nortel Networks                                                           October 1998               Collaboration between ISOC/IETF and ITU-TStatus of this Memo   This memo provides information for the Internet community.  It does   not specify an Internet standard of any kind.  Distribution of this   memo is unlimited.Copyright Notice   Copyright (C) The Internet Society (1998).  All Rights Reserved.Overview   This document describes the collaboration process between the ITU-T   and ISOC/IETF. The process was documented by ITU-T at its TSAG   (Telecommunication Standardization Advisory Group) meeting in   September 1998.  All participants of this meeting (including Study   Group chairmen and the ISOC Vice President for Standards) assisted in   the creation of this document.  Subsequently, it was sent to all   ITU-T Study Groups and ISOC/IETF to ensure that everyone was aware of   the process. Feedback is requested by the next meeting of TSAG in   April 1999.  This document is identical to the document produced by   TSAG.   Please send any comments on this document to ISOC at poised@tis.com   and for information to the ITU-T TSAG group at tsagco-op@itu.intISOC/IETF and ITU-T Collaboration1 Scope   This Liaison is sent to all ITU-T Study Groups to encourage and aid   in the understanding of collaboration on standards development   between the ITU-T and the Internet Society (ISOC) / Internet   Engineering Task Force (IETF).  Feedback to TSAG is encouraged before   its next meeting in April 1999.Brett, et. al.               Informational                      [Page 1]RFC 2436            ISOC/IETF - ITU-T Collaboration         October 19982 Introduction   The telecommunication industry is faced with an explosion in growth   of the Internet and other IP (Internet Protocol) based networks.   Operators, manufacturers and software/application providers alike are   reconsidering their business directions and Standards Development   Organizations and Forums and Consortia are facing an immense   challenge to address this situation.  These challenges were   considered by TSAG at its meeting in Geneva, 7-11 September 1998,   where it recognized that although the ITU-T and ISOC/IETF are already   collaborating in a number of areas, this collaboration must be   strengthened within the context of changes in work emphasis and   direction within the ITU-T on studies related to IP based networks.   For example, many Study Groups (e.g., 7, 8 & 16) already address   several the aspects of IP based networks.  Further, new IP related   work activities are starting in other Study Groups (e.g., 4, 11 &   13).  There are many potential areas of interest to ITU-T Study   Groups in the IP area that should be investigated (e.g., signaling,   routing, security, numbering & addressing, integrated management,   performance, IP - telecom interworking, access).  Since many of these   areas are also being investigated by the IETF, there is a requirement   for close collaboration.   Recommendations A.4, A.5 and A.6 already document the process for   working with other organizations and their documents.  Since there   are no specific guidelines on the process of collaboration with the   IETF, this liaison is meant to provide that information.  The current   level of cooperation between the ITU-T and the IETF should be built   upon to ensure that the competence and experience of each   organization is brought to bear in the most effective manner and in   collaboration with the other.3 Guidance on Collaboration   TSAG has been made aware of several instances of existing successful   collaboration between the ITU-T and ISOC/IETF.  This section builds   on this existing process and details some of the more important   guidance points that Study Groups should be aware of in their   collaboration with ISOC/IETF.3.1  How to interact on ITU-T or IETF work items.   Study Groups that have identified work topics that are Internet   related should evaluate the relationship with topics defined in the   IETF.  Current IETF Working Groups and their charters (IETF   definition of the scope of work) are listed in the IETF archives (seeBrett, et. al.               Informational                      [Page 2]RFC 2436            ISOC/IETF - ITU-T Collaboration         October 1998   section 3.5).  A Study Group may decide that development of a   Recommendation on a particular topic may benefit from collaboration   with the IETF.   The Study Group should identify this collaboration in its work plan   (specifically in that of each Question involved), describing the goal   of the collaboration and its expected outcome.  It is anticipated   that an IETF Working Group would also evaluate and identify areas of   relationship with the ITU-T and document the collaboration with the   ITU-T Study Group in its charter.   The following sections outline a process that can be used to enable   each group to learn about the others new work items.3.1.1  How the ITU-T learns about existing IETF work items   The responsibility is on individual Study Groups to review the   current IETF Working Groups to determine if there are any topics of   mutual interest.  Should a Study Group believe that there is an   opportunity for collaboration on a topic of mutual interest it should   contact both the IETF Working Group Chair and the Area Director   responsible.3.1.2  How the ITU-T learns about proposed new IETF work items   The IETF maintains a mailing list for the distribution and discussion   of proposed new Working Group charters amongst the management team.   To add or change a subscription to this list, send a message to   iesg-secretary@ietf.org indicating who you are and that you would   like to subscribe to the New Work mailing list.  Details on the list   process will be emailed to each subscriber.   It is recommended that each Study Group chairman (or a delegate)   subscribe to this list and monitor the new work items for possible   overlap or interest to their Study Group.  It is expected that this   mailing list will see one or two messages per month. Chairmen should   identify their comments on these charters by responding to the IESG   mailing list at iesg@ietf.org clearly indicating their ITU-T position   and the nature of their concern.  It should be noted that the IETF   turnaround time for new Working Group charters is one week.  As a   result, the mailing list should be consistently monitored.3.1.3  How the IETF learns about ITU-T work items   An initial list of Internet related topics in ITU-T Study Groups   based on the situation as of 11 September is being provided to the   Vice President of Standards for ISOC for distribution to the   appropriate IETF interested individuals and will be copied to allBrett, et. al.               Informational                      [Page 3]RFC 2436            ISOC/IETF - ITU-T Collaboration         October 1998   ITU-T Study Group Chairmen.  The intention is for Study Groups to   forward updates to the Vice President of Standards for ISOC as they   occur.   It is expected that any IETF Working Group interest with the topics   being covered by the ITU-T will be forwarded to individual Study   Group Chairmen (or the lead Study Group Chairman) by the Vice   President of Standards for ISOC.3.2  Representation   ISOC, including its standards body IETF, have been admitted by the   ITU Council to participate in the work of the ITU-T.   As a result,   ISOC delegates are therefore afforded equivalent rights to those of   other ITU-T Study Group participants (see 3.2.1).  Conversely, ITU-T   delegates may participate in the work of the IETF as individuals or   be recognized as ITU-T delegates (see 3.2.2).  To promote   collaboration it is useful to facilitate communication between the   organizations as further described below.3.2.1  IETF Recognition at ITU-T   Participants from the IETF may participate in ITU-T meetings as ISOC   delegates if the appropriate IETF Working Group (or area) has   approved their attendance.  This approval will be communicated to the   TSB in the form of a registration for a particular ITU-T meeting by   the Vice President of Standards for ISOC.3.2.2  ITU-T Recognition at ISOC/IETF   ITU-T Study Group Chairmen can authorize one or more members to   attend an IETF meeting as an official ITU-T delegate speaking on   behalf of the Study Group (or a particular Rapporteur Group).  The   Study Group Chairman communicates the ITU-T list of delegates by   email to the Vice President of Standards for ISOC and also to the   Study Group.  The email address of the Vice President of Standards   for ISOC is vp-standards@isoc.org.3.2.3 Communication contacts   To foster ongoing communication between the ITU-T and ISOC/IETF, it   is important to identify and establish contact points within ITU-T   Study Groups for specific IETF topics of mutual interest. It is   beneficial to identify these contact points early and in some cases   the contact point identified by each organization may be the same   individual.  It is responsibility of a Study Group to establish the   contact points with the IETF and maintain the list on its web page.Brett, et. al.               Informational                      [Page 4]RFC 2436            ISOC/IETF - ITU-T Collaboration         October 1998   An example of communication contacts that is suggested to Study   Groups has both a high level and a working level:   1. ITU-T Study Group Chairman and IETF Area Director      An IETF Area Director is the individual responsible for overseeing      a major focus of activity with a scope similar to that of an ITU-T      Study Group Chairman. These positions are both relatively long-      term (of several years) and offer the stability of contact points      between the two organizations for a given topic.   2. ITU-T Rapporteur and IETF Working Group Chair      An IETF Working Group Chair is an individual who is assigned to      lead the work on a specific task within one particular area with a      scope similar to that of an ITU-T Rapporteur.  These positions are      working positions (of a year or more) that typically end when the      work on a specific topic ends.  Collaboration here is very      beneficial to ensure the actual work gets done. Note that the      current IETF Area Directors and Working Group chairs can be found      in the IETF Working Group charters.  The current ITU-T Study Group      chairmen and Rapporteurs are listed on the ITU-T web page.   Both the ITU-T and IETF may assign their contact point function(s) to   other individuals than those suggested as it deems appropriate.3.2.4  Communication   Informal communication between contact points and experts of both   organizations is encouraged.  However, note that formal communication   from an ITU-T Study Group, Working Party or Rapporteur to an   associated IETF contact point must be explicitly approved and   identified as coming from the Study Group, Working Party or

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