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<head><title>German Xp Community</title></head><body><h1><img src="logo.gif"> German Xp Community</h1>See also <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?GermanXpTerminology">GermanXpTerminology</a>, <a href="XpForumAtEgroupsDotCom.html">XpForumAtEgroupsDotCom</a>, <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?HamburgXpUsersGroup">HamburgXpUsersGroup</a>
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On this page, german-speaking wiki folks interested in <a href="ExtremeProgramming.html">ExtremeProgramming</a> please list their name.
<p>In addition, to motivate further knowledge transfer between german-speaking XPers, I started the <a href="XpForumAtEgroupsDotCom.html">XpForumAtEgroupsDotCom</a> discussion list. To subscribe, please send an email to <a href="mailto:xp-forum-subscribe@egroups.com">mailto:xp-forum-subscribe@egroups.com</a> --<a href="FrankWestphal.html">FrankWestphal</a>
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In preparation for the german translation of <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ExtremeProgrammingExplainedEmbraceChange">ExtremeProgrammingExplainedEmbraceChange</a>, we finally came up with the "official" <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?GermanXpTerminology">GermanXpTerminology</a>.
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In alphabetical order, we are
<p><UL><li> ChristophDevenoges<a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?edit=ChristophDevenoges">?</a>
<li> <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?JuttaEckstein">JuttaEckstein</a>
<li> <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TammoFreese">TammoFreese</a>
<li> <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?PeterGassmann">PeterGassmann</a>
<li> <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?FrankGerhardt">FrankGerhardt</a>
<li> <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?AndreasHeilwagen">AndreasHeilwagen</a>
<li> <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?HaskoHeinecke">HaskoHeinecke</a>
<li> RolfKatzenberger<a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?edit=RolfKatzenberger">?</a>
<li> <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?OlafKock">OlafKock</a>
<li> <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?MalteKroeger">MalteKroeger</a>
<li> <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ArminKurz">ArminKurz</a>
<li> <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ManfredLange">ManfredLange</a>
<li> <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?JohannesLink">JohannesLink</a>
<li> <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ThomasMaeder">ThomasMaeder</a>
<li> KlausMarquardt<a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?edit=KlausMarquardt">?</a>
<li> <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?HelmutMerz">HelmutMerz</a>
<li> <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?JosephPelrine">JosephPelrine</a>
<li> <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?SebastianPetzelberger">SebastianPetzelberger</a>
<li> <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?GerritRiessen">GerritRiessen</a>
<li> <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ManfredSchaefer">ManfredSchaefer</a>
<li> <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?OlavSchettler">OlavSchettler</a>
<li> <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?StefanSchmiedl">StefanSchmiedl</a>
<li> <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?MichaelSchuerig">MichaelSchuerig</a>
<li> <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?MarkoSchulz">MarkoSchulz</a>
<li> <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ChrisWege">ChrisWege</a>
<li> <a href="FrankWestphal.html">FrankWestphal</a>
<li> <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?MarkWindholtz">MarkWindholtz</a>
<li> <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?SchangBoos">SchangBoos</a>
<p></UL>Siehe auch <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?BerlinXpUsersGroup">BerlinXpUsersGroup</a>, <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?HamburgXpUsersGroup">HamburgXpUsersGroup</a>, <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?StuttgartXpUsersGroup">StuttgartXpUsersGroup</a>.
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Is this restricted to Germans or are Swiss allowed as well :-) ? --<a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?PeterGassmann">PeterGassmann</a>
<p>"German" is the correct name for the language as well as the country. You wouldn't call this node GermanspokenXpCommunity<a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?edit=GermanspokenXpCommunity">?</a>, would you? We don't want do compete with <a href="DoTheSimplestThingThatCouldPossiblyWork.html">DoTheSimplestThingThatCouldPossiblyWork</a> as the longest <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WikiName">WikiName</a>, right? ;-) -- <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?MarkoSchulz">MarkoSchulz</a>
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May I ask a provocative question? Why is it interesting to have a specific <a href="GermanXpCommunity.html">GermanXpCommunity</a>, or why do people think it is necessary to have one? -- <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ThomasWeidenfeller">ThomasWeidenfeller</a>
<p><em>I hope, it adds to one of the <a href="ExtremeValues.html">ExtremeValues</a>: Communication among german-speaking practitioners.</em> --<a href="FrankWestphal.html">FrankWestphal</a>
<p><UL><li> Let's try to start a <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?DutchXpCommunity">DutchXpCommunity</a>. -- <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?MarnixKlooster">MarnixKlooster</a>
<p></UL>I work for <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?DaimlerChrysler">DaimlerChrysler</a> and since the merger we have more and more contact with American colleagues. Their working model (or work ethos if you like) is a lot different from our German one. There is also the Daimler aspect that we always want to do the right thing, no matter what it costs. Look at our cars ;-) Germans are the "Volk der Dichter und Denker" which makes us thinking instead of action-oriented paper-thirsty bureaucrats. DTSTTCPW is very hard to bring in here. See also <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ExtremeProgrammingInEnemyTerritory">ExtremeProgrammingInEnemyTerritory</a>. <a href="KentBeck.html">KentBeck</a> said he will return from Switzerland to the US because people are not ready for his ideas over here. My interest in the <a href="GermanXpCommunity.html">GermanXpCommunity</a> is to find out about the culture-specific issues of doing XP in a German organization. I'd be glad to learn more about <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?CultureDifferences">CultureDifferences</a> between GermanVsAmericanCulture<a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?edit=GermanVsAmericanCulture">?</a>. -- <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?FrankGerhardt">FrankGerhardt</a>
<p><em>But don't touch the cars, unless you want to tip them over.</em> [SCNR]
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Some points I'd think important:
<p><UL><li> <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?GermanXpTerminology">GermanXpTerminology</a>: Find good German words for expressions and concepts used in XP (Think of: Refactoring, <a href="PairProgramming.html">PairProgramming</a>) for communication with managers, programmers, students, for writing articles, book translations etc.
<li> <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?XpMarketing">XpMarketing</a>: Get to know and be able to tell about German <a href="ExtremeProgrammingProjects.html">ExtremeProgrammingProjects</a>
<li> Chance for personal communication/meetings
<p></UL>So I see one focus on language and another (less important) on region; and I'd like to express a special invitation to all people in Swizzerland, Austria, South Tyrolia, German speakers all over the world, and all people just curious to know how <a href="DoTheSimplestThingThatCouldPossiblyWork.html">DoTheSimplestThingThatCouldPossiblyWork</a> sounds in German. (BTW, I'd like to know that in Italian, Spanish, French and Russian as well.)
<p>-- <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?HelmutMerz">HelmutMerz</a>
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I'm actually kinda amazed that something as radical as XP is gaining [atleast to a certain degree] coverage in Germany. I just hope that it doesn't die in the WAP or XML or T-Online hype that is basically saturating the current German Medias coverage of the Internet.
<p>What is even more surprising is that BASF have done an XP project, along with the Bayerische Landesbank, and perhaps <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?DaimlerChrysler">DaimlerChrysler</a> [<a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?FrankGerhardt">FrankGerhardt</a>?] will do another? And maybe even SAP? or VW? or DeutscheBank<a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?edit=DeutscheBank">?</a>? ....
<p>Oracle(the
German branch of the company), to the best of my knowledge, has no plans to do XP projects in the near future .
<p>BTW is there a list of ExtremeProgrammingPositiveCompanies<a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?edit=ExtremeProgrammingPositiveCompanies">?</a> ? I don't mean specific to Germany, but in general. <a href="http://www.extremeprogramming.org/">http://www.extremeprogramming.org/</a> has a list of XP people and companies looking for XP people, perhaps that is enough.
<p>-- <a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?GerritRiessen">GerritRiessen</a>
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