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Summary of Computer Mail Services Meeting                   1 March 1982
RFC 808


         In particular, if a small number of senders are doing something
         that is incompatible with the total service, they will be asked
         to stop doing it.  Or, if a small number of receivers can't
         handle something that most systems do, they will be asked to
         handle that feature.

      Second, work was to be focused on the definition and
      implementation of a next-generation mail service which would
      attack all the existing problems and include facilities for voice,
      fax, and graphics data.

   The use of structured data in the next-generation mail service was
   approved.  Jack Haverty noted that RFC 713 specified a language,
   MSDTP, that could be used to define a structured mail protocol.

Conclusions:

   A.  Existing Mail Services

      1.  Mail shall not be sent between hosts if it breaks existing
      mail programs.

         Outlawed by this rule are:

            a. Spaces in user names.

            b. Multiple at signs in mailboxes.

      2.  Features of RFC 733 that are generally unimplemented shall
      remain unimplemented, and are decommitted from the specification.

         Outlawed by this rule are:

            a. "Include" and "Postal" type addresses.

      3.  Duane Adams will arbitrate disputes.

      4.  There shall be no more changes to the MAIL/MLFL FTP reply
      codes.

   B.  New Mail Services

      1.  New services should be provided in the context of the
      experimental multimedia mail systems now being planned.






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Summary of Computer Mail Services Meeting                   1 March 1982
RFC 808


Action Items:

   1.  Jon Postel is to circulate a draft specification of a structured
   mail protocol by 15-Feb-79.

      [* This became IEN-85 published in March 1979 and now superseded
      by RFCs 759 and 767. *]

   2.  Everyone is to submit a 2 to 3 page position paper on addressing
   to Duane Adams by 1-Mar-79.

   3.  Everyone is to submit a 2 to 3 page position paper on System
   Architecture and Message Transmission by 1-Apr-79.





































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Summary of Computer Mail Services Meeting                   1 March 1982
RFC 808


Appendix A:

             First Preliminary List of ARPANET Mail Systems

      Center;by Dave Farber

   Mail System         Authors          Machines

   SNDMSG              Antiquity        Tenex, TOPS-20
   READMAIL            Antiquity        TEXEX, TOPS-20
   RD                  Larry Roberts    TENEX, TOPS-20
   MSG                 Vittal           TENEX (18 SITES)
   HERMES              BBN              TENEX (14 SITES)
   HG                  Calvin
   MAIL                Werme            TOPS-10 on KA and KL10 CMU
   RDMAIL              Karlton          TOPS-10 on KA and KL10 CMU
   COMSAT              KLH              MIT-MC,-AI,-ML
   MAIL/QMAIL (1)      KLH              MIT-MC,-AI,-ML
   BABYL               EAK              MIT-MC,-AI,-ML
   FTPS (2)            KLH              MIT-MC,-AI,-ML
   SIGMA               ISI              Dedicated TENEX
   MAILSTAT (3)        BBN              TENEX, TOPS-20
   FTP (2)             BBN              TENEX, TOPS-20
   MAILER (3)          BBN              TENEX, TOPS-20
   MM                  MMcM@AI          SRI-KL
   BANANARD            Yonke            TENEX
   MSG Version 1       UCB - RAND       PDP 11 UNIX
   SNDMSG (UNIX)       UCB - RAND       PDP 11 UNIX
   MS                  D. Crocker       PDP 11 UNIX
   MSG Version 2       D. Crocker       PDP 11 UNIX
   MH                  Borden           RAND-UNIX
   Read-mail (1)       Palter & Sibert  Multics all
   print-mail          Palter & Sibert  Multics all
   send-mail           Palter & Sibert  Multics all
   MSGH                Ness at Wharton  Wharton 10
   Wharton Mail System Ness at Wharton  Wharton 10
   SWAMP               Guyton           IBM 370 Wilber
   MSG                 Antiquity        HARVARD and RUTGERS 10
   MAIL (1)            Harvey           SU-AI-10
   RCV (Mail reader)   Harvey           SU-AI-10
   DMSG                (Private)        TENEX
   READMAIL                -            LL IBM VM/370
   RD                  Haines           LL IBM VM/370
   $NETMAIL               ?             AMES-67

   (1)  mail sender
   (2)  FTP server
   (3)  service system


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Summary of Computer Mail Services Meeting                   1 March 1982
RFC 808


Attendees:

   Name                 Org     Mailbox

   Duane Adams          ARPA    Adams@ISIA
   Bill Carlson         ARPA    Carlson@ISIA
   Vint Cerf            ARPA    Cerf@ISIA
   Jerry Burchfiel      BBN     Burchfiel@BBNA
   Debbie Deutsch       BBN     DDeutsch@BBNA
   Jack Haverty         BBN     Haverty@BBN-Unix
   Charles Khuen        BBN     Khuen@BBNC
   Mark Lavin           BBN     MLavin@BBNE
   Charlotte Mooers     BBN     Mooers@BBNE
   Ted Myer             BBN     Myer@BBNA
   Ray Nickerson        BBN     Nickerson@BBNC
   Paul Santos          BBN     Santos@BBNE
   Bob Thomas           BBN     BThomas@BBND
   Mike Wingfield       BBN     Wingfield@BBND
   Joanne Sattley       CCA     JZS@CCA
   Howard Wactlar       CMU     Wactlar@CMU-10A
   James Pool           DOE     Pool@BBN
   Robert McNab         DCA     DCACode535@ISIA
   Ed Cain              DCEC    Cain@EDN-Unix
   Warren Hawrylko      DCEC    Lyons@ISIA
   Harry Helm           DCEC    Lyons@ISIA
   Danny Cohen          ISI     Cohen@ISIB
   Jon Postel           ISI     Postel@ISIF
   Dave Lebling         MIT     PDL@MIT-XX
   Tom Knight           MIT     TK@MIT-AI
   R. Stallman          MIT     RMS@MIT-AI
   Pat Winston          MIT     PHW@MIT-AI
   Al Vezza             MIT     AV@MIT-DMS
   Wayne Shiveley       OFDA    ---
   Bob Anderson         RAND    Anderson@RAND-Unix
   Ken Harrenstien      SRI     KLH@SRI-NIC
   Ron Kunzelman        SRI     Kunzelman@SRI-KL
   Dave Farber          UDEL    Farber@UDEL













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