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   Rapporteur Group, respectively.  Conversely, formal communication
   from an IETF Working Group or Area Director must also be explicitly
   approved and identified before forwarding to any ITU-T contact.
   Formal communication is intended to allow the sharing of positions
   between the IETF and the ITU-T outside of actual documents (as
   described in 3.3).  This would cover such things as comments on
   documents and requests for input.  The approved communication is
   simply emailed from one body contact to another (the appropriate
   mailing lists, as described in 3.2.5 may be copied).

3.2.5  Mailing Lists

   All IETF Working Groups and all ITU-T Study Group Questions have
   associated mailing lists.




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   In the IETF, the mailing list is the primary vehicle for discussion
   and decision making.  It is recommended the ITU-T experts interested
   in particular IETF working group topics subscribe to and participate
   in these lists. The IETF Working Group mailing list subscription and
   archive information are noted in each Working Group's charter. In the
   ITU-T, the TSB has set up formal mailing lists for Questions, Working
   Parties and other topics within Study Groups (more detail can be
   found on the ITU website.).  These mailing lists are typically used
   for discussion of ITU-T contributions.  Note that individual
   subscribers to this list must be affiliated with an ITU-T member (at
   this time, there is no blanket inclusion of all IETF participants as
   members, however, as a member ISOC may designate representatives to
   subscribe).  Alternatively, ITU-T members operate personal mailing
   lists on various topics with no restrictions on membership (e.g.,
   IETF participants are welcome).

3.3     Document Sharing

   During the course of ITU-T and IETF collaboration it is important to
   share working drafts and documents among the technical working
   groups.  Initial proposed concepts and specifications typically can
   be circulated by email (often just repeating the concept and not
   including the details of the specification) on both the IETF and
   ITU-T mailing lists.  In addition, working texts (or URLs) of draft
   Recommendations or RFCs (Internet Drafts) may also be sent between
   the organizations as described below.

3.3.1  IETF to ITU-T

   IETF documents (e.g., Internet Drafts) can be submitted to a Study
   Group as a Contribution from ISOC.  In order to ensure that the IETF
   has properly authorized this,  the IETF Working Group must agree that
   the specific drafts are of mutual interest and that there is a
   benefit in forwarding them to the ITU-T for review, comment and
   potential use.  Once agreed, the Vice President Standards for ISOC
   would review the Working Group request and give approval.  The
   contributions would then be forwarded (with the noted approval) to
   the TSB for circulation as a Study Group Contribution.

3.3.2  ITU-T to IETF

   A Study Group may send texts of draft new Recommendations to the IETF
   as contributions in the form of Internet Drafts.  Internet Drafts are
   IETF temporary documents that expire six months after being
   published.  The Study Group must decide that there is a benefit in
   forwarding them to the IETF for review, comment and potential use.
   Terms of reference for Rapporteur Group meetings may authorize
   Rapporteur Groups to send working documents, in the form of Internet



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   Drafts, to the IETF.  In both cases, the document editor would be
   instructed to prepare the contribution in Internet Draft format (in
   ASCII and optionally postscript format as per RFC 2223) and submit it
   to the Internet Draft editor (email: [e-mail]).
   Alternatively, the Study Group or Rapporteur Group could agree to
   post the document on a web site and merely document its existence
   with a short Internet Draft that contains a summary and the document
   URL.

   Both the Rapporteur and the Document Editor should be identified as
   contacts in the contribution.  The contribution must also clearly
   indicate that the Internet Draft is a working document of a
   particular ITU-T Study Group.

3.3.3  ITU-T & IETF

   It is envisaged that the processes of 3.3.1 & 3.3.2 will often be
   used simultaneously by both an IETF Working Group and an ITU-T Study
   Group to collaborate on a topic of mutual interest.  It is also
   envisaged that the outcome of the collaboration will be the
   documentation in full by one body and its referencing by the other
   (see section 3.4 for details).  That is, common or joint text is
   discouraged because of the current differences in approval, revision
   and stability of approved documents for publication by each body.

3.4  Simple cross referencing

   ITU-T Recommendation A.5, specifically its Annex A and the
   application guidelines attached, describes the process for
   referencing IETF RFCs in ITU-T Recommendations.  IETF RFC 2026,
   specifically section 7.1.1, describes the process for referencing
   other open standards (like ITU-T Recommendations) in IETF RFCs.

3.5  Additional items

   Several URLs to IETF procedures are provided here for information:

   RFC2223  - Instructions to RFC Authors, October 1997
      ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2223.txt
   RFC2026  - The Internet Standards Process Revision 3, October 1996
      ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2026.txt
   RFC2418 - IETF Working Group Guidelines and Procedures, September
      1998 ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2418.txt
   Current list and status of all IETF RFCs ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-
      notes/rfc-index.txt
   Current list and description of all IETF Internet Drafts:
      ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/1id-abstracts.txt




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   Current list of IETF Working Groups and their Charters: (includes
      Area Directors and Chair contacts, Mailing list information, etc.)
      http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/wg-dir.html
   Current ITU-T information can be found on the ITU website: (includes
      contacts, organization, Recommendations for purchase, mailing list
      info, etc.) http://www.itu.int

4.  Acknowledgments

   The process was documented by ITU-T at its TSAG (Telecommunication
   Standardization Advisory Group) meeting in September 1998.  All
   participants of this meeting (including Study Group chairmen and the
   ISOC Vice President for Standards) assisted in the creation of this
   document.  Subsequently, it was sent to all ITU-T Study Groups and
   ISOC/IETF to ensure that everyone was aware of the process. Feedback
   is requested by the next meeting of TSAG in April 1999.

5. Security Considerations

   This type of non-protocol document does not directly effect the
   security of the Internet.

6. Authors' Addresses

   ITU-T Contact:
   R. F. Brett
   Nortel Networks
   P.O. Box 3511, Station C
   Ottawa, ON  K1Y 4H7
   Canada

   Phone: [phone]
   Fax:   [phone]
   EMail: [e-mail]


   ISOC Contact:
   Scott O. Bradner
   Harvard University
   Holyoke Center, Room 876
   1350 Mass. Ave.
   Cambridge, MA  02138
   USA

   Phone: [phone]
   EMail: [e-mail]





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   Editor:
   Glenn W. Parsons
   Nortel Networks
   P.O. Box 3511, Station C
   Ottawa, ON  K1Y 4H7
   Canada

   Phone: [phone]
   Fax:   [phone]
   EMail: [e-mail]

7. References

   [A.4]     ITU-T Recommendation A.4 - Communication process between
             ITU-T and forums and consortia, October 1996.

   [A.5]     ITU-T Recommendation A.5 - Generic procedures for including
             references to documents to other organizations in ITU-T
             Recommendations, January 1998.

   [A.6]     ITU-T Recommendation A.6 - Cooperation and exchange of
             information between ITU-T and national and regional
             standards development organizations, September 1998.

   [RFC2026] Bradner, S., "The Internet Standards Process - Revision 3",
             BCP 9, RFC 2026, October 1996.

   [RFC2223] Postel, J. and J. Reynolds, "Instructions to RFC Authors",
             RFC 2223, October 1997.

   [RFC2418] Bradner, S., "IETF Working Group Guidelines and
             Procedures", BCP 25, RFC 2418, September 1998.

8.  Full ITU Copyright Statement

   Copyright (C) ITU (1998).  All Rights Reserved.

   No part of this publication may be reproduced or utilized in any form
   or by any means, electronic or mechanical, including photocopying and
   microfilm, without permission in writing from the ITU.











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9.  Annex A

   APPLICATION GUIDELINES ON REFERENCING DOCUMENTS FROM OTHER
   ORGANIZATIONS

PART I - Developed by TSAG at its January 1998 Meeting

   The following guidelines should be used in conjunction with the
   relevant provisions of Recommendations A.3, A.4, A.5 and A.23.

   1. Ownership/Change Control
      - When considering using material from other organizations it is
         preferable to only include references to other standards,
         rather than incorporate text from a standard in the body of a
         Recommendation. Exceptionally, full text incorporation is
         necessary rather than a reference where Recommendations having