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   [Editor's comment: This may actually be feasible.]

   (vii) Define a CMIS interface to any of the surviving network
   management schemes so as to provide a migration path to ISO.

4. RESOLUTION AND CONCLUSIONS

   In a dramatic act of statesmanship, Craig Partridge volunteered that
   the HEMS proposal be dropped in favor of the other two efforts, SGMP
   and CMIS/CMIP - IF THIS WOULD LEAD TO INTERNET-WIDE AGREEMENT ON A
   NETWORK MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR THE SHORT AND LONG TERM.

   A rationale for the long term was proposed, based on the assumption
   that the ISO initiatives, and the U.S. Government issuance of the
   GOSIP guidelines, would ultimately require at least the Government
   users, and hence their vendor suppliers, to use ISO-based protocols
   and tools. In this rationale, the Internet research community and its
   vendors would "take the high ground" in network management by
   implementing the CMIS/CMIP on top of the TCP/IP protocol suite and
   deploy it widely for experimental use in the Internet.

   Neither the ISO nor any other organization, including the Corporation
   for Open Systems (COS) has anything close to the laboratory in large
   that the Internet represents. By taking the initiative, the Internet
   working groups can establish credibility based on experience which
   will make it far more feasible to affect the evolution of the ISO
   network management and other related efforts. The Internet community
   will be able to speak with authority about problems with the design
   or definition of CMIS/CMIP based on real implementation experience
   and use, rather than solely analytic means.

   In the short term, however, the Internet desperately needs tools to
   apply to the operational management problems associated with its
   rapid growth. Given the present state of advanced implementation of
   the SGMP and its relative simplicity, the general agreement was that
   SGMP (or its re-named successor, SNMP) should be quickly brought to
   more complete specification for widespread implementation and use.

   In short, the ad hoc committee recommends:

      1. In the short term, the Internet community should adopt and
      adapt the Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMP) for use as the
      basis of common network management throughout the system.

      (Rationale: The software is available and in operation.)

      2. In the longer term, the Internet research community and the
      vendors should develop, deploy and test a network management



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      system based on the International Standards Organization (ISO)
      Common Management Information Services/Common Management
      Information Protocol (CMIS/CMIP).

      (Rationale: The Internet community can take the high ground in
      protocol development by virtue of the experimental environment in
      which it can operate.  Recommendations to the ISO from this
      community, the IAB and the vendors will carry great weight if they
      are in the language of the ISO common network management system
      and if they are rooted in actual experience with implementation
      and use in the field.)

      3. Responsibility for the SNMP effort should be placed in the
      hands of an IETF task force.

      (Rationale: Eliminate vendor-specific bias or control over the
      SNMP and its evolution and harmonize inputs from the Internet
      community.)

      4. As a high priority effort, define an extended Management
      Information Base (MIB) for SNMP and TCP/IP CMIP to bring them into
      closer conformance with the MIB defined for the experimental
      HighLevel Entity Management System (HEMS).           (Rationale:
      The HEMS effort produced a very thorough and widely-discussed set
      of elements to monitor, along with definitions of the semantics of
      these elements. The current SNMP definitions are more restricted
      and the CMIP definitions less precise. Implementation of SNMP in a
      timely and useful fashion through the Internet cannot be
      satisfactorily completed without such a definition of information
      elements in hand.)





















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MEMBERS OF THE AD HOC NET MANAGEMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE

   Amatzia Ben-Artzi
   Sytek Corp.
   1225 Charleston Rd.
   Mountain View, CA 94043
        [e-mail]

   Bob Braden
   USC-ISI
   4676 Admiralty Way
   Marina del Rey, CA 90292
        [e-mail]

   Jeff Case
   University of Tennessee
   200 Stokely Management Center
   Knoxville, TN 37996
        [e-mail]

   Vint Cerf - Chairman
   Corp. for National Research Initiatives
   1895 Preston White Dr., Suite 100
   Reston, VA 22091
       [phone]
       [e-mail]

   Chuck Davin
   Proteon, Inc.
   2 Technology Dr.
   Westborough, MA 01536
       [e-mail]

   Stephen Dunford
   UNISYS Corp.
   System Development Corporation
   5151 Camino Road
   Camarillo, CA 93010
        [e-mail]

   Mark Fedor
   NYSERNET
   125 Jordan Road
   Troy, NY 12180
        [e-mail]






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   Phill Gross - IETF Chairman
   MITRE Corporation
   1820 Dolley Madison Blvd.
   McLean, VA 22012
        [e-mail]

   Lee LaBarre
   MITRE Corporation
   Burlington Road
   Bedford, MA 01730
        [e-mail]

   Dan Lynch
   Advanced Computing Environments
   480 San Antonio Rd.
   Mountain View, CA 94040
        [e-mail]

   Jim Mathis
   Apple Computer, Inc.
   MS 27-0
   20525 Mariani Ave.
   Cupertino, CA 95014
        [e-mail]

   Craig Partridge
   BBN Labs
   10 Moulton St.
   Cambridge, MA 02238
       [e-mail]

   Marshall T. Rose
   The Wollongong Group, Inc.
   1129 San Antonio Road
   Palo Alto, CA 94043
        [e-mail]

   Greg Satz
   Cisco Systems
   1360 Willow Rd., Suite 201
   Menlo Park, CA 94301
        [e-mail]

   Martin Lee Schoffstall
   NYSERNET
   125 Jordan Road
   Troy, NY 12180
        [e-mail]



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   Glenn Trewitt
   Center for Integrated Systems, Room 216
   Stanford University
   Stanford, CA 94305
        [e-mail]

MEETING LOCATION:  San Diego Supercomputer Center, UC San Diego

LOCAL ARRANGEMENTS:  Paul Love, SDSC

MEETING DATE:  29 February 1988

AGENDA ITEMS:

   0900 Introductions and Objectives/Cerf

   0915 HEMS: Craig Partridge and Glenn Trewitt

   1030 Break

   1045 SGMP - Jeff Case

   1145 CMIP/CMIS - Amatzia Ben-Artzi

   1245 Lunch Break

   1430 TCP/IP and ISO: Politics, Technology, Penetration/Cerf

   1530 Break

   1545 Tradeoffs among alternate paths (Discussion)

   1700 Resolution of alternatives

   1730 Summary of conclusions/actions

   1800 Adjourn














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REFERENCES

   The following reference material was provided in advance of the
   meeting.  Note that some of the citations include informal
   descriptors (such as IDEA numbers or DRAFT letter codes), for
   example, IDEA-13 or DRAFT-AAAA.  IDEA notes may be updated from time
   to time reusing the same number.  The IDEA notes are the working
   notes of the Engineering Task Force.  The DRAFT is a temporary
   notation and may not be meaningful for more than a few months.

   HEMS

      (1) Craig Partridge, "A UNIX Implementation of HEMS", USENIX,
      February 1988.  [Available from C. Partridge, BBN Labs]

      (2) Craig Partridge and Glenn Trewitt, "The High-Level Entity
      Management System", RFC-1021.

      (3) Craig Partridge and Glenn Trewitt, "The High-Level Entity
      Management Protocol", RFC-1022.

      (4) Glenn Trewitt and Craig Partridge, "The HEMS Monitoring and
      Control Language", RFC-1023.

      (5) Craig Partridge and Glenn Trewitt, "HEMS Variable
      Definitions", RFC-1024.

      (6) Craig Partridge and Glenn Trewitt, "The High-Level Entity
      Management System", IEEE Network magazine, March 1988.

   SGMP/SNMP

      (1) James Davin, Jeff Case, Mark Fedor and Martin Schoffstall, "A
      Simple Gateway Monitoring Protocol", RFC-1028, November 1987.

      (2) James Davin, Jeff Case, Mark Fedor and Martin Schoffstall, "A
      Simple Network Management Protocol", IDEA-11, February 1988,
      obsoletes RFC-1028 when issued.

      (3) Jeffrey R. Case, James R. Davin, Mark S. Fedor, Martin L.
      Schoffstall, "Introduction to the Simple Gateway Monitoring
      Protocol", IEEE Network Magazine, March 1988.

   CMIS/CMIP

      (1) Amatzia Ben-Artzi, "Network Management for TCP/IP Network: An
      Overview", IDEA-12, February 1988.




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      (2) Lee LaBarre, " TCP/IP Network Management Implementors
      Agreements", IDEA-13, January 1988.

      (3) Lee LaBarre, "Data Link Layer Management Information:
      MAC802.3", DRAFT-MMMM, February 1988.

      (4) Lee LaBarre, "Network Layer Management Information: IP",
      DRAFT-NNNN, February 1988.

      (5) Marshall Rose, "ISO Presentation Services on Top of TCP/IP-
      based Internets", DRAFT-PPPP, February 1988.

      (6) Lee LaBarre, "Structure and Identification of Management
      Information for the Internet", DRAFT-SMI, February 1988.

      (7) Lee LaBarre, "Transport Layer Management Information: TCP",
      DRAFT-TTTT, February 1988.

      (8) Lee LaBarre, "Transport Layer Management Information: UDP",
      DRAFT-UUUU, February 1988.

      (9) ISO/IEC JTC 1/21 N 2058, "2nd DP 9595-1 Information Processing
      Systems - Open Systems Interconnection - Management Information
      Service Definition - Part 1: Overview", December 1987.

      (10) ISO/IEC JTC 1/21 N 2059, "2nd DP 9595-2, Information
      Processing Systems - Open Systems Interconnection - Management
      Information Service Definition - Part 2: Common Management
      Information Service Definition", December 1987.

      (11) ISO/IEC JTC 1/21 N 2060, "2nd DP 9596-2, Information
      Processing Systems - Open Systems Interconnection - Management
      Information Protocol Specification - Part 2: Common Management
      Information Protocol", December 1987.

      (12) ISO/TC97/SC21/WG4 N 472, "US Comments on the Proposal for
      Extension of the Common Management Information Services and
      Protocol: Creation and Deletion Functions", November 1987.

      (13) JTC1/SC21/WG4 N 482, "Proposal to extend M-Set and M-
      Confirmed-Set to allow adding and removing values of a multi-
      valued attribute", November 1987.

      (14) S. Mark Klerer, "The OSI Management Architecture: An
      Overview", IEEE Network Magazine, March 1988.






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