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AUTHOR
The AUTHOR may be several persons. For recorded documents the
authors appear separately in the index of authors, to facilitate
searching for mail when an author is known, but the title and
location of the mail are unknown.
TITLE
The TITLE field is especially useful for recorded mail, since
indexes on key words in the title can be produced relatively
easily, and facilitate searching for mail.
For this reason, the title should be a succinct indicator of the
contents.
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT
Acknowledgement of failure to deliver should be given to the
sender.
An optional, positive acknowledgement of successful delivery to
the recipient's sitename will be given on request of sender
(like U.S. CERTIFIED mail).
No acknowledgement that the recipient actually saw the mail
will be given (comparable to not having U.S. REGISTERED mail).
RECORDED
The concept of "recorded" mail is that a permanent record of the
mail is kept centrally, to allow future references and re-readings
of the mail to be made.
For example, in the NIC Journal system, a record is kept of all
the items entered into the Journal. From this record, author,
title-word, and NIC number indexes are produced to allow for
references and re-readings.
The key to retrieval of recorded Journal items is the use of an
accession number (the NIC number). This essentially removes
the possibility of duplicate filenames being used.
The basic aspect of recorded mail which was discussed at the mail
meeting is the assignment of an "accession" number.
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It was decided to get the accession numbers from the NIC on an
as-needed basis, without pre-assignment and without local
assignment of numbers.
This subject may be reviewed in the future. Local assignment
may be desirable to prevent the NIC from becoming a bottleneck
in the mail process.
It was pointed out that local assignment of numbers would be
un-ambiguous if the numbers included some information such as
sitename, date, and time.
One other problem exits [sic], namely "where is the recorded
document?".
Initially the document should be in the NIC, but ultimately it
could be anywhere on the Network, provided only that there is a
central mechanism for indexing and cataloging all the recorded
documents.
The pathname to the recorded document would then include
filename and sitename.
TYPE
The TYPE subcommand was a result of a discussion on the
problems of large mail files, and the associated
question of who would pay for the processing and storing
of these files.
The main decisions made were:
a) The processing, transmittal, and storage costs of
sending mail should be borne at the sender's host.
b) The processing and storage costs of receiving
mail should be borne at the recipient's host
initially, as a default.
Information to enable the recipient host to make an
intelligent decision about where to store the incoming
mail are passed along via the TYPE command.
The recipient host will have the local option of
providing either of the following services:
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a) free use of system to send mail;
b) free use of system to receive mail, i.e. login
not required for delivery over the Network. (A
possible alternative is use of a "mail" account,
or use of the recipient's account, for processing
and storage of the incoming mail.
TEXT / FILE / CITATION
TEXT
This field is for the text of the mail message.
FILE
The purpose of this field is unclear to me. Does it contain a
machine readable pointer to the file that the sender wishes the
recipient to read?
CITATION
The citation is a person-readable pointer to the file that the
sender wishes the recipient to read.
An alternative to sending entire messages or files over the
Network is to use the "CITATION" mechanism. With this, the
sender sends a short message (the citation) saying, in effect,
"please read file X at site Y".
This alternative would be especially useful for
a) mail that is distributed with group idents (to all
liaisons, for example), and
b) "long" files (size not defined) that the recipient may
not be immediately interested in.
However no method of enforcing use of this alternative was
discussed. It will be up to the recipients to devise a
scheme satisfactory to them.
Other General Discussion
Bob Kahn placed on the floor the following question (I paraphrase):
Can't the design of a mail system be made to include alternative
sources of data and alternative modes of operation, unless
exclusion of these alternatives can be quantitatively defended?
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Particular aspects of this question are:
1) What is the desirability and difficulty of admitting different
data sources into the mail system?
What are the "boundaries" that divide permitted from prohibited
data sources?
What is the quantitative distinction between deferred and
realtime mail?
Will the design we come up with allow such things as
a) handling a calendar that reflects the known and
anticipated whereabouts of people so that meetings can be
scheduled sensibly?
b) formatting the mail contents for later query and other
information handling?
2) Whatever primitives we implement, can't they be designed so as
not to preclude things like Tenex "linking"?
This requires two-way data communication paths.
How do we specify and get the attention of a "sink" for the
data stream?
e.g., for interprocess communication, and for Tenex-type
"linking".
The general reaction to this discussion was one of perspective:
In the scheme of things that could be considered "point-to-point
communication", mailbox-type of communication is not the most
general kind.
AKB listed several types of communication problems:
program-program communication
people-people real-time communication, e.g.
Tenex-type "links"
computer teleconferencing
mailbox communication: cataloging, storage
protocols: host-host, telnet, file transfer
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A design for a mailbox-type system won't be required to encompass
the problems of, say, a computer teleconferencing system, which
has attributes (real-time, video, very large volume of data to be
transferred, to name some) that are not attributes of a mail box
system.
Attendees at the Network Mail Meeting 2/23/73 at SRI-ARC
Nancy Mimno BBN
ACB Alan Bomberger AMES-67
AKB Abhay Bhushan MIT-DMOG
AWH Wayne Hathaway AMES-67
CHI Charles Irby SRI-ARC
DHC Dave Crocker UCLA-NMC
JBP Jon Postel UCLA-NMC
JDH Dave Hopper SRI-ARC
JEW Jim White SRI-ARC
LPD Peter Deutsch PARC-MAXC
MCK Mark Krilanovich UCSB-MOD75
MDK Mike Kudlick SRI-ARC
REK2 Bob Kahn ARPA
RKK Rajendra Kanodia MIT-MULTICS
RST Ray Tomlinson BBN-TENEX
[ This RFC was put into machine readable form for entry ]
[ into the online RFC archives by Joseph Marshall 9/97 ]
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